jamisonaw Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 I'm sure this post will get the boot, but I appreciate any response. Is Pandora Jar legal? Does it fit Pandora's TOS? So, should I be using Tor w/ it? Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroTruths Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 Ok, so I finally got it to work. My trick was simply using Flash 7 instead of 8 Nothing that fancy or complicated. Just follow the instructions, and if you find that it's not working for you, try switching to Flash 7 instead of Flash 8. However, I do still suffer from a bug. in looking at the colsol of Firebug, it would appear that I'm unable to get the first Song that plays. However, after that, I can get the rest of the songs. Nothing major, but I still find it slightly annoying. But, at this point, I'm glad to have it working at all. Thanks guys. Oh, and to all web developers, I highly recommend Firebug :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birra Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 I'm sure this post will get the boot, but I appreciate any response. Is Pandora Jar legal? Does it fit Pandora's TOS? So, should I be using Tor w/ it? Cheers. It might be legal, but if you use TOR to evade the block, it's not legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 And if you don't erase the files after you listened to them once then it's not either... Actually, even using the Rewind and Forward functions would be against the TOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamisonaw Posted November 1, 2007 Share Posted November 1, 2007 That's what I figured about the legal issue. I've also had problem with using Flash 8, and the file not writing. Switched to flash 7 and it works fine. Thanks for the posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redbone Posted November 2, 2007 Share Posted November 2, 2007 Yea... I've still not ever been able to get this working. I've tried both flash7 and flash8. It appears the files are never being written to my temp folder. Is there any reason why? Is this the way Pandora's Jar is supposed to look when it opens? Welcome to Pandora's Jar - darkone_05 edition Attempting to lauch on port 8085...OK! [ready, lets grab some MP3's!!!] 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 connected to server. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yzf Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Greetings from Canada I found Darkone's Pandora's Jar the other week. Its one of the best programs that I've found in a long time. I found it very easy to setup. I'm running Vista Basic on my daughters $300 Acer box Firefox 2. 0. 0. 9 PJar Ver 8. 1 Removed Flash 9 and installed Flash 8 Edited pluginreg file as per the instructions. It worked the first time out. I did not install Greasemonkey or Flash switcher. I find that its best to start PJar with cruse control disabled, capture the first song manually and then enable cruise control. As far as Pandora restricting access to only the US. What a joke. Pandora can be accessed from any country outside the US using a very simple method that does not involve the use of TOR. My issue is that I don't know how to disclose this on a public board for fear of countermeasures from Pandora. Keep up the good work. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Hi, Don't you get the feeling that we are the cobayes of Pandora? When Pandora's Jar was improved they also improved but we've lost most of our man-power so Pandora seems to wait patiently that progress is made to raise yet another counter-measure, these days... It would be easy to kill Pandora's Jar definitively for everyone but it still works, how come?... I wonder, maybe it's a game and the reward for those who play is music on one side and a tighter implementation on the other. Perhaps the people who use Pandora's Jar happen to be testers, actually, and when Pandora will feel they have what they want they'll locked us out and throw the key. So, my advice would be to start looking for alternatives and adopt Pandora's perspective in the meantime. That's why i became worried with "ethic" lately. From their point of view, it wouldn't matter if we were effectively "Time-Shifting" Pandora but there is a problem related to the .MP3 format which provides great sound but also allows the listeners to keep that music indefinitely. I thought Pandora was supposed to be a streaming radio, not a free-for-all juke box for insatiable juvenile leeches... For all we know, the Pandora coders read this forum religiously and their boss is waiting until he has decided that there's no further benefit for Pandora to let us play around. :shock: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 Hi, Don't you get the feeling that we are the cobayes of Pandora? When Pandora's Jar was improved they also improved but we've lost most of our man-power so Pandora seems to wait patiently that progress is made to raise yet another counter-measure, these days... It would be easy to kill Pandora's Jar definitively for everyone but it still works, how come?... I wonder, maybe it's a game and the reward for those who play is music on one side and a tighter implementation on the other. Perhaps the people who use Pandora's Jar happen to be testers, actually, and when Pandora will feel they have what they want they'll locked us out and throw the key. So, my advice would be to start looking for alternatives and adopt Pandora's perspective in the meantime. That's why i became worried with "ethic" lately. From their point of view, it wouldn't matter if we were effectively "Time-Shifting" Pandora but there is a problem related to the .MP3 format which provides great sound but also allows the listeners to keep that music indefinitely. I thought Pandora was supposed to be a streaming radio, not a free-for-all juke box for insatiable juvenile leeches... For all we know, the Pandora coders read this forum religiously and their boss is waiting until he has decided that there's no further benefit for Pandora to let us play around. :shock: duh, of course they follow this all the time. the only problem is you can't pass out something from the web and let people use it but not have it. For you to listen to the songs they have to give you a copy first so your computer can play it but once your computer gets it there's nothing stoping you from doing what you want with it I can strip the music from pandora on any computer that funs firefox with out any external program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 So, Pandora just needs to support MSIE only (like with Yahoo! Music) then ban anything previous to Flash v9. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted November 3, 2007 Share Posted November 3, 2007 So, Pandora just needs to support MSIE only (like with Yahoo! Music) then ban anything previous to Flash v9. then I open ethereal but MSIE is a dieing breed Opera and firefox both will take more market space from them selfs away from IE and they will have no choice but to support them all, but again my same statement stands you can let someone listen to it on a computer and not let have have a copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamisonaw Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 Hi all! Once again, I'm loving Time Shifting with Pandora Jar. :-D Is anyone else having problems scrobbeling to Last.FM? My tracks are showing up as having been played 4 hours before they actually did. Last.FM is therefore thinking they're spam with my iTunes submits correctly. Any suggestions? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latobada Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Apparently Pandora has updated their site (i do not know the date or time) and now apparently the SWF not only encompasses the player, but there is also a "Pandora Extras" section as well. I am not sure if this is what is inhibiting the hack to work, although I am sad to say that it appear, at least for now, that Pandora's jar is closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted November 14, 2007 Share Posted November 14, 2007 Hi, As far as i'm concerned i never seen the Artist/Song info boxes and Grab button working using my Linux Live CD version of Pandora's Jar but i can tell you that manual capture is still possible, which most likely means that whatever changes you've noticed they're just not meant as an attempt to disable Pandora's Jar at all... When they decide to put a stop to Pandora's Jar no doupt even manual capture won't be possible, in my opinion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sspediacci Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 This is what the Log is telling me as I am running it in Firefox. Please somebody help Welcome to Pandora's Jar - darkone_05 edition Attempting to lauch on port 8085. . . OK! [ready, lets grab some MP3's!!!] localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser localhost connected to server. unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser localhost connected to server. unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 I think it says "unable to rip MP3" towards the end... :razz: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sspediacci Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 I see thats what it says.....but how come? I set up everything right i have all the extensions and I as I said i use Firefox what could I be doing wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pichet Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Hi, If we all had the same setup one post would fix them all but right now there are too many variables and the only way to debug these things is to get detailed log files hoping there's some clue inside. Can anyone recall where the log file is?... Maybe someone here can assist you, once you've published your log-file, that is. If it doesn't help at least it might happen to be instructive, good luck! ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMXOD Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I have Pandora's Jar working with Flash 9!!! see my post named "Workaround for Flash 9 and future versions" -- source code is up... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor512 Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 This is what the Log is telling me as I am running it in Firefox. Please somebody help Welcome to Pandora's Jar - darkone_05 edition Attempting to lauch on port 8085. . . OK! [ready, lets grab some MP3's!!!] localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser localhost connected to server. unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser localhost connected to server. unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser this problem is common with the new firefox 2.0.0.10 (i posted in the pandora installers thread) not sure why, but pandora just doesnt seem to like the new firefox so I had to go back to 2.0.0.9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sspediacci Posted December 8, 2007 Share Posted December 8, 2007 Thanks that was def the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouzy210 Posted December 9, 2007 Share Posted December 9, 2007 Ok so I followed this first version of how to do this and like other times I have followed all the steps properly. Pandora Jar runs and the console does also. It looks like it works and even says grabmp3() complete. However, when I look in the folder specified the music is not there. Also the pandora jar java box that runs gives me messages like this... Software caused connection abort: socket write error localhost connected to server. localhost connected to server. unable to rip MP3 unable to find file make sure you have Pandora running in a FIRFOX browser I am using FF just for the record. I see above you downgraded FF. Did that work? If so how do I do that? Will I loose my extensions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouzy210 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Never mind I am not doing this its illegal!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birra Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Never mind I am not doing this its illegal!!! Oh noes si teh illegal!!111 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouzy210 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 but i got it to work... wink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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