I can't believe this ancient thread (from 20 May 2006) is still getting attention. I saw Vivek added his site (http://www.securitytube.net) about five years ago. I would note that he offers a variety of both free and inexpensive online training. There are a lot of excellent training providers out there for professionals, but there are also some very reasonable classes out there too. So did the results of all this feedback ever make it to the Wiki? When I clicked the supposed link, it sent me to a video of Darren "hacking" Paddington Bear.