Zach Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Hello all, I would like to know what is the best programming language to use when making a Operating System? I want to make a very very very simple os like dos for starters. All suggestions would be wonderful. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothCriminal Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Hello all, I would like to know what is the best programming language to use when making a Operating System? I want to make a very very very simple os like dos for starters. All suggestions would be wonderful. :-) Why? So many OS's to choose from (many of them free), that will be many times better than yours. It is to much work for the results. Not to burst your bubble, but stick with what is out there. Do you fully understand how much work goes into an OS, DOS alone would take a very long time to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sablefoxx Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Hello all, I would like to know what is the best programming language to use when making a Operating System? I want to make a very very very simple os like dos for starters. All suggestions would be wonderful. :-) To be honest, don't bother it can take teams of people with PHDs in Computer Science years to make an OS that does something other then print "Hello World", this is not a weekend project, its a lifetime project (for one person at least). It also sounds like you've never written a program before, start there (i maybe wrong and prejudice but thats what it looks like to me). For example in the programming lang. C++ to simply print the words "Hello World" its this (Keep in mind this built on years of other programs, like Windows and Linux, you can't take this, burn it to a cd and boot from it): #include <iostream.h> int main() { cout << "Hello World!n"; return 0; } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 As a research project or overall learning experience, writing your own OS can be very worthwhile. It doesn't have to take long to make one. It just takes long to make a good one. In this piece (Andrew Tannenbaum's response to the allegation that Linux was based on Minix) Andrew says: Lampson had just finished describing the pioneering CTSS operating system and said, in his inimitable way: "Is there anybody here who couldn't write CTSS in a month?" Nobody raised his hand. I concluded that you'd have to be real dumb not to be able to write an operating system in a month. The paper cited above is an operating system I wrote at Berkeley with the help of Bill Benson. It took a lot more than a month, but I am not as smart as Butler. Nobody is. I suspect you'll need to use some ASM for the bootloading, but the rest should be doable in either C or C++, and you can take it up from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sablefoxx Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I suspect you'll need to use some ASM for the bootloading, but the rest should be doable in either C or C++, and you can take it up from there. And ASM is NOT fun!!! You maybe able to find some out there on the tubes i guess. Still is gonna be very hard to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I suspect you'll need to use some ASM for the bootloading, but the rest should be doable in either C or C++, and you can take it up from there. And ASM is NOT fun!!! You maybe able to find some out there on the tubes i guess. Still is gonna be very hard to do. I like ASM. If your writing an OS you really have to be good with ASM and C you don't have to know everything but if you have the time you can work your way through it although it's likely not going to be usable, just use it for learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyrancher82 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 And ASM is NOT fun!!! You maybe able to find some out there on the tubes i guess. Still is gonna be very hard to do. 1 word: V2OS. Go google it or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1u Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Hello all, I would like to know what is the best programming language to use when making a Operating System? I want to make a very very very simple os like dos for starters. All suggestions would be wonderful. :-) Currently rofling (literally, not even kidding). You act as if its something you can learn overnight. Just... wow... just research... ALOT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmoothCriminal Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 lol. Sure have your fun, make fun all of us because we are not writing our own OS's. I'm going to go cry in the corner because you make me feel inadequate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyrancher82 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 'very very very simple OS like DOS'... DOS isn't very very very very simple. For starters do you know assembly? If not, give up before you begin. Do you know what real mode, protected mode, and other systems level terms mean? If not, give up before you begin. A lot of work goes into an operating system, even a simple one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K1u Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 'very very very simple OS like DOS'... DOS isn't very very very very simple. For starters do you know assembly? If not, give up before you begin. Do you know what real mode, protected mode, and other systems level terms mean? If not, give up before you begin. A lot of work goes into an operating system, even a simple one. Totally agree with TomB, if you are making topics like this you should give up. Even to have it your Operating System boot you must at least know intermediate to high amount of ASM. If you are serious about actually doing this then follow the following links. http://www.amazon.com/Operating-nbsp-Syste.../3JK0767J09TA8/ http://www.amazon.com/Sams-Teach-Yourself-.../dp/0672324482/ http://www.amazon.com/Assembly-nbsp-Langua.../1O8HQDOL94J14/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sablefoxx Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 And ASM is NOT fun!!! You maybe able to find some out there on the tubes i guess. Still is gonna be very hard to do. 1 word: V2OS. Go google it or something. V2_OS is an operating system written in pure Assembly language; most in 32-bit code, with a small amount of 16-bit code. --Damn, that is some manly code!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strife25 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 you could check out a barebones OS called pintos, I know that is the OS i will be programming in my future undergraduate OS class at college. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pintos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakey Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 i think most non-programmers just think they will wack a bunch of code together and have an operating system. don't work like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 you could check out a barebones OS called pintos, I know that is the OS i will be programming in my future undergraduate OS class at college. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pintos Also see Menuet OS, it's a full desktop OS written in ASM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 It i very Difficult. I am attempting to Create on and I have been working of it for about 2 years, and it only looks like a colourful DOS prompts with 3 built in Commands. Im Sure TomB will say similar that its difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anyedie Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 as an alternative, why not take a look at LFS (linux from scratch). Its not easy, and I dont think its quite what your looking for, but there are entire step by step guides to building your own linux distro, maybe this can satisfy your itch. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicdanw Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 And ASM is NOT fun!!! You maybe able to find some out there on the tubes i guess. Still is gonna be very hard to do.On the contrary, I find ASM lots of fun, mostly because of how strange it is to program. It forces the brain to stretch in different ways. I believe Dr. Frankenfurter said it best:It's something you'll get used to. A mental mind-fuck can be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyrancher82 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 Assembly is fairly simple, it's programming one step at a time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 If you want a challenge you could try to do it in Brain-F**k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyrancher82 Posted December 21, 2007 Share Posted December 21, 2007 You can't code an OS in Brainfuck unless you modified the available instructions in Brainfuck. Brainfuck can't interact with hardware, only it's array of bytes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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