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[audey]

supposedly Labor policy will impose a mandatory internet filter on all aussie ISP's including deep packet inspection and banning of all 'illegal' material and an aditional defualt but opt-out adult material blocker.

It is not clear as to exactly what they will be banning.

I don't know that much about it but I have found theese:

http://nocleanfeed.com/index.html

http://www.efa.org.au/

http://www.alp.org.au/download/now/labors_...yber_safety.pdf

I haven't heard about this until recently but apparently it was an election policy.

[corstar]

Yeah, This will be the great firewall of oz. There will always be ways of getting around these government noobs though.

I've always thought the reach of government in Australia has gone too far. I won't abide by their rules, I wasn't consulted.....

[digip]

So encrypt all your traffic. What will they do then?

[psydT0ne]

It's inevitable...no matter what government is in power...in todays current economic and social climate. The government will always want to control and regulate what it percieves to be a threat to conformity.

[Plunks]

You would like to think that in Australia we would have a percieved higher level of freedom to do what we want, this is taking control a little to far. Its what has always been said, create a wall someones gonna find a way to get over it.

Give it up is all I say, uTorrent packet encryption, using Tor to browse, it just wont work if someone actually puts an effort into getting past it

[Swathe]

I have two friends that both own ISP's so I will have a chat to them and see what they can do for me ;)

[audey]

@swathe: lucky you. how do you meet people like that?

@everyone: yes I know there are very easy workarounds, but all of them involve making the connection slower.

I read they were going to use DPI wich slows the internets dramatically.

[Razor512]

it will cause many problems.

humans cant be in charge of the filtering as there billions of websites for them to look through.

and filtering software cant be used either because there will be too many false positives

it will send many AU businesses out of business as their customers wont be able to connect to their site due to false positives

it will be like in my old highschool where they used some crappy symantec filter for the entire school which not only failed to block some porn sites, it blocked most legit sites such as the websites recommended to us in the textbooks for study guides. the schools own library page, email, and many other sites

and all other sites that relied on advertisements to cover server costs would randomly fail to load due to them being blocked based on the content of the advertisement

while i'm sure that country will have people that arent as retarded, setting up their web filtering, it will still have false positives if it filters based on page content

and since they cant change the filtering rules to fix it as that will unblock thousands of bad sites along with the 1 good site. they would have to manually whitelist sites

and we all know how long it takes the government to do anything

(not sure about au, but in the US, when were were in Junior high school, our teachers had us write letters to the white house (we used out own home return addresses)

I got a response (a generic copy/paste one) back from them during my first year of college

if I owned a online shopping website and they blocked it and I asked them to unblock it, I would be out of business years before they even look at my request

[Deags]

It won't happen.

[psydT0ne]

the truth be known...they're prolly doing it already..

[Razor512]

the 2% that support the filtering will hate it when it causes their isps to add lower bandwidth caps and increase the monthly fee for the service to handle the load of filtering all of the content

[VaKo]

What do you expect? The internet allows peopel to talk, and the more that people talk the more scared the goverment gets.

[twocs]

Aussies got jealous of the Great Firewall of China, so they decided to make their own Great Barrier Firewall. Luckily the most significant benefit will be that more Aussies become interested in hacking so that they can get to the Internet that they want.

[audey]

@twocs: you mean interested in finding a 'hacker' to do it for them?

[m0u53]

as far as im concerned this will happen everywhere and when it does..the un-knoledgable will parish and the geeks and nerd WILL RISE AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD...yea but no serously they wont do that if they try adn filter everything bw adn speed willdrop and customers will drop

i personally only use utorrent when i really need something *cough*Windhoes*cough*

but other then that like others have said..encrytion is win but its slow...but shit arnt torrents and other downloads already slow? ...for me they are so its no biggie for me

[Razor512]

as far as im concerned this will happen everywhere and when it does..the un-knoledgable will parish and the geeks and nerd WILL RISE AND TAKE OVER THE WORLD...yea but no serously they wont do that if they try adn filter everything bw adn speed willdrop and customers will drop

i personally only use utorrent when i really need something *cough*Windhoes*cough*

but other then that like others have said..encrytion is win but its slow...but shit arnt torrents and other downloads already slow? ...for me they are so its no biggie for me

for me torrents are really fast, much faster than normal downloads

just make sure you have all the correct ports forwarded including the listening port in utorrent

also make sure you set the number of connections utorrent can make to the limit of your router.

some routers can handle 100 connections and others can only handle 30

if it makes too many, it will lag everything and the torrents will go slow

thats why some people have problems with the web browsing going really slow when their torrent downloads are barely going 20KB/s (eve though their connection can do well over 500KB/s )

benchmark your router and find out the max it can take

also setup the QOS to lower the priority of your torrent traffic so it doesn't slow your connection down for other tasks

torrents can go fast but if they add filtering, it will slow the network down so much that no one will get a stable speed

it will force isps to increase the cost of the service in order to upgrade their crap, and knowing isps, there always quick to increase prices with out increasing bandwidth (comcast for one )

[snakey]

i hate the government. Lucky i dont vote, i would only have myself to blame if i did.

[audey]

LoL, I wish I was old enough to vote, because then I would be old enough to drive. and also I would like to start my own political party. on my own island. far far away. with fibre connections for everyone.

[snakey]

LoL, I wish I was old enough to vote, because then I would be old enough to drive. and also I would like to start my own political party. on my own island. far far away. with fibre connections for everyone.

Prime minister audey!!!

[audey]

what do you need to create a party in australia? maybe we could round up some ppl?

[Swathe]

I think you need a minimum 400 registered members to even apply. I have actually considered this in the past.

[Deags]

Costs 500 bucks to register a party. 12 members i think as well. i looked at this a while ago(been looking into it alot more lately.... i fucking hate day light saving!).

This is very conservative of the labor party to consider this. Kevin Rudd will tell his ministers to talk this up(keep those few conservatives on board) but he will not act. At present K Dudd is just annoying nerds. Now lets just face it. Nerds are normally not rich or working some awesome job. They are inclined to vote for the labor party because it believes in power among unions not individuals(when you work a shit job like everyone around you it is easy to get lost in this belief you have no power). The few nerds this pisses off does not compare to the parents and church goers of the country jumping on board! How ever if the labor party were to implement this they would lose much votes as more than nerds start caring. As soon as the media compares this to Saudi Arabia once the people(media/not nerds) start caring it will go away.

The Government: If you think the problems we create are bad, just wait till you see our solutions.

Finishing notes :)

Fuck the LNP. Go the Nationals(kinda)! Fuck city people. Fuck recycled water. Fuck NSW VIC WA TAS ACT SA for using DST bullshit. Fuck Nuclear power. Fuck this years Wheat prices. Fuck Wayne Swan and the others! Fuck the Greens. Fuck selling off of power/telstra/everything useful. Fuck the Liberals. One Nation was onto something! Fuck the American Australians. Fuck Toyota. Go Ford/Holden. Go Freedom Of Religion! Fuck USA - AUS free trade agreement! Fuck Soccer(fucking football means everything else over here!).

That's just so you know where i come from.

[audey]

Whats wrong with Recycled water, Nuclear power and City people?

Also are there any West Australians here who think we should have our own nation?

EDIT: Oh yeah, and who thinks we could actually organize a party by the next election? (I might not be able to be in it because of age :()?

[Swathe]

Hmmm, so how many aussies on here would be interest in forming a political party. If we had all the sysadmins and IT staff in Australia as members, it would be a pretty powerful lobby. Imagine an IT worker walkout/strike. It would cripple the country. SYSadmin day would be a paid day off for all IT workers.

[VaKo]

Nah, the answer is to focus on persuading the voting populace that the problems we face today require a pragmatic solutions based approach as opposed to the grandiose ideology of capitalism that has failed us once more. By harnessing the solution focused approach of modern technology workers and applying it to problems that effect us all, rising energy costs, rising food costs, failing public education systems and a lack of jobs at home - we can work together for a better quality of life for all, not just those who can afford increasingly scarce resources.