livinginfear Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 torrents is this legit with the show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr0p Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 Personally I'm seeding the torrent that has seasons 1-4 in .avi. Pretty sure it's tracked by TPB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcninja Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 DivX > HD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 It perfectly legal to share Hak5, as its a creative commons share and sharea like license for the show. Anyone can make a torrent of the show, and if anything, its encouraged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingwray Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 It perfectly legal to share Hak5, as its a creative commons share and sharea like license for the show. Anyone can make a torrent of the show, and if anything, its encouraged. I thought it wasn't encouraged for the same reason why Hak5 never originally offered a torrent. It's because they don't get any metrics from the torrent for the number of individual downloads, metrics like that is what the sponsors and advertisers want to see before they hand over the money. Don't know how things have changed since the switch to Revision3 through, but that was the stance for the first couple of seasons. Of course there is nothing wrong/illegal with torrenting it in that sense as you said its CC, just the crew preferred if you didn't. Perhaps a current member would clarify what the current Hak5 stance on torrents of the show is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I thought it wasn't encouraged for the same reason why Hak5 never originally offered a torrent. It's because they don't get any metrics from the torrent for the number of individual downloads, metrics like that is what the sponsors and advertisers want to see before they hand over the money. Don't know how things have changed since the switch to Revision3 through, but that was the stance for the first couple of seasons. Of course there is nothing wrong/illegal with torrenting it in that sense as you said its CC, just the crew preferred if you didn't. Perhaps a current member would clarify what the current Hak5 stance on torrents of the show is? Last time I checked, torrents show how many times a file has been downlaoded. At least, when I see stuff in uTorrent, it says how many times the file has been downloaded. There have been torrents of the show over the years, including the DVD, and the show uses a share and share alike license. I never heard anyone say NOT to torrent the show, so clarification on that would be nice, but I can't forsee it being an issue when there are plenty of sites already sharing and torrenting the show on their own. 5 seasons in and I don't think anyone has ever tried to block a torrent in all those years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stingwray Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I don't know about the metrics that you can get from the torrent trackers, whether they are insufficient or just unreliable, downloads of .torrent files don't equate to downloads of the whole show. I can't remember perfectly, but I don't think the DVD had any advertising in it, which freed up to be torrented, also because of the size the bandwidth bill would have been horrible over the short term. I'm sure there are many places with torrents up of the show and there's nothing wrong with it, especially if it brings in new viewers, I was just always under the assumption that to help with the metrics it was preferred not to torrent them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhollyMindless Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 If you can I'm sure Rev3 would like you to get it from an official feed. This allows the advertisers to know how many eyeballs they're getting and in return how much they should pay Rev3/Hak5 for advertising. I'm sure they're flattered that you feel it's worth a torrent, but it really has an impact on income. The Creative Commons license as I understand it is intended to allow/encourage derivative works - not necessarily the original work. Hak5 and Rev3 probably wouldn't go after you (and don't expect a magic all seeing eye to magically count the downloads and pay accordingly - this isn't Canada.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Kitchen Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 The show is released under a creative commons Non-Commercial, Share Alike, Attribution license. What that means is you're free to share it as long as you're not profiting off it. You can remix it as long as your derivative work is released under the same license, and you are required to attribute Hak5.org. That's all :) As far as our concern with numbers and all that jazz, basically we only get paid for an episode's first 4 week numbers. Yeah, I know, that kinda blows seeing as how the long tail works and all (50% views in 4 weeks, the rest over the course of months longer) -- but hey thats how the business works and I'm not complaining. I think torrents are really most effective when dealing with large files, such as season compilations like those hosted at TPB or kacomps. So in short, we do encourage 'em but we'd prefer not to see torrents of the episodes within the first 4 weeks of them airing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5ive Posted March 23, 2009 Share Posted March 23, 2009 DivX > HD? I think the reason for the smaller file size on the HD torrent is because it's not a full season. I believe HD started near the end of S4, during the CES episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will-wtf Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 R5 = hd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metalwolf Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I thought that rev put out a torrent until they got DDoSed. I thought I heard Darren say torrenting hak5 was ok in season 1. Anyway, Thanks for using the torrent I created, Happy Seeding! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmac Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 When Hak.5 originally aired way back when, they offered a torrent for each of their episodes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Chelen Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 there are some working torrents for seasons 1, 2, and 5 on mininova http://www.mininova.org/search/?search=hak5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0park Posted February 7, 2010 Share Posted February 7, 2010 Since you're measured from the first 4 weeks, does that also count iTunes podcast downloads within the first 4 weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
null_x86 Posted March 6, 2010 Share Posted March 6, 2010 Since you're measured from the first 4 weeks, does that also count iTunes podcast downloads within the first 4 weeks? I'd assume so, considering iTunes does give stats back to the podcaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snubs Posted March 10, 2010 Share Posted March 10, 2010 Yes, iTunes downloads are included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secret52 Posted December 15, 2010 Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) As far as the torrents hosted on my site kacomps.com, I contacted Darren about this before creating the site. If you've watched Season 5 Episode 4, you'll notice that Hak.5 even gave a shout out to me and put my site up on the screen. I respect what Darren and the crew do. I've been following them since Season 1 Episode 1 (1x01). I've downloaded a copy of every episode in the formats listed on the site. I also wait until a season is 8 episodes in before releasing the previous season. As far as tracking the torrents, I now have a tracker running to keep metrics. As far as the advertising on the bottom of the site, that's strictly my choice. As I'm sure Darren and everyone else knows, running a server and seed boxes isn't cheap. If Darren, Rev3, or any of the Hak.5 crew have any issues with the torrents being created or hosted on my site, they are free to contact me with a removal request which will be promptly acknowledged. I only did this so that fans would have a one-stop-shop for getting the episodes instead of downloading them one-by-one. So please, if you want to complain about my site and the service I'm offering, contact me directly. My info is at the bottom of the website. Edited December 15, 2010 by secret52 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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