PoyBoy Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I leave simple math to machines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 accept that kilobyte will be 2048 nibbles from here until eternity Ahem. That would be 2 kilonibbles, you insensitive clod! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Kitchen Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Difinitive answer: http://www.google.com/search?q=1+kilobyte+in+bytes go flame elsewhere. 1 kilobyte = 1024 bytes. just as 1 kilobit = 1024 bits. just as 1 megabyte = 1 024 kilobytes and 1 gigabyte = 1 024 megabytes and 1 terabytes = 1 024 gigabytes and 1 petabytes = 1 024 terabytes and 1 exabytes = 1 024 petabytes and on and on and on. THE END Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 <3 Darren :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
film Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 Difinitive answer:http://www.google.com/search?q=1+kilobyte+in+bytes go flame elsewhere. 1 kilobyte = 1024 bytes. just as 1 kilobit = 1024 bits. just as 1 megabyte = 1 024 kilobytes and 1 gigabyte = 1 024 megabytes and 1 terabytes = 1 024 gigabytes and 1 petabytes = 1 024 terabytes and 1 exabytes = 1 024 petabytes and on and on and on. THE END WTF are you talking about flamming ? If you read i have already asnwerd that i said i just came and asked who uses the Mib way ... i didnt ask how many bytes are in a kilobyte ... I want to know does anyone use the way i said ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famicoman Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 kilobytes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
film Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 kilobytes no ... i mean well does any one like use Kibibytes the only three people i know who use it are ... BitTorrent , DC ++ and Wiki . i Was wondering do Windows say a kilobyte is 1024 i have been told they do but not sure ? ?? :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 1KB is 1024 bytes says windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 it doenst matter what the OS says. It still doesnt change how many bytes are in a kb. They just say its 1000 for simplicity. /me thinks this should of been locked a long time ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
film Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 1KB is 1024 bytes says windows. Ok Thanks So Windows Says 1 KB is 1024, ok :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLSS Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Difinitive answer:http://www.google.com/search?q=1+kilobyte+in+bytes go flame elsewhere. 1 kilobyte = 1024 bytes. just as 1 kilobit = 1024 bits. just as 1 megabyte = 1 024 kilobytes and 1 gigabyte = 1 024 megabytes and 1 terabytes = 1 024 gigabytes and 1 petabytes = 1 024 terabytes and 1 exabytes = 1 024 petabytes and on and on and on. THE END o come on ure not really relying on google are you ? in that case here -> http://www.google.com/search?hl=nl&q=t...=Zoeken&lr= 2bad u guys cant read dutch cos in the dutch wikipedia article here it gets explained why they done it wrong all those years http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veelvouden_van_bytes hoep cooper will translate the needed ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
film Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 l0l Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLSS Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 here's the last bit of the article in my best translation , i hope cooper wil translate the whole reason on top .... presets according to the IEC-standardIn 1998 the International Electrotechnical Commission decided to stop the confusion by creating a new standard for binairy presets . Sinds then it is not wanted to use the normal presets kilo, mega, giga, tera, peta and exa for powers of 1024. a megabyte thus is 1.000.000 bytes. when u want to express a amount of 1.048.576 bytes it is now called a mebibyte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
film Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 here's the last bit of the article in my best translation , i hope cooper wil translate the whole reason on top .... presets according to the IEC-standard In 1998 the International Electrotechnical Commission decided to stop the confusion by creating a new standard for binairy presets . Sinds then it is not wanted to use the normal presets kilo, mega, giga, tera, peta and exa for powers of 1024. a megabyte thus is 1.000.000 bytes. when u want to express a amount of 1.048.576 bytes it is now called a mebibyte. Thanks you ... i wanst making it up as some might thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Is this thread going to get locked now? I think we have argued enough about this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLSS Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 w8 i put a lot of effort into translating the wikipedia article !! -> www.DLSS.be/wikipedia-trans/Veelvouden_van_bytes-en.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
film Posted August 22, 2006 Author Share Posted August 22, 2006 w8 i put a lot of effort into translating the wikipedia article !! -> www.DLSS.be/wikipedia-trans/Veelvouden_van_bytes-en.htm good job mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jool Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Honestly this is just silly, kibibytes was invented by the harddrive manufacturers (put forward through the IEC) so that they could continue to sell harddrives with less space than they advertise without getting sued. Before the term was invented there was never confusion, only annoyance at harddrive manufacturers that had intentionally misstated the size of the drive you just bought. Everybody who cared knew that 1kb was equal to 1024bytes and the rest didn't notice the difference until drives got bigger and it was actually noticeable. Then as a preventative measure they invented a new unit to confuse any court that would have to deal with a potential class action suit. It has been annoying us and starting pointless discussions ever since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLSS Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Honestly this is just silly, kibibytes was invented by the harddrive manufacturers (put forward through the IEC) so that they could continue to sell harddrives with less space than they advertise without getting sued.Before the term was invented there was never confusion, only annoyance at harddrive manufacturers that had intentionally misstated the size of the drive you just bought. Everybody who cared knew that 1kb was equal to 1024bytes and the rest didn't notice the difference until drives got bigger and it was actually noticeable. Then as a preventative measure they invented a new unit to confuse any court that would have to deal with a potential class action suit. It has been annoying us and starting pointless discussions ever since. false ! ... cos they were still according to the IEC standard . FFS ok stay ignorant , im tyred discussing with ppl that dont take to facts ... FFS u kno wot , go ahead continue to believe in santaclaus & theeaster bunny .... ARG :x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizz Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 hey guys.. chill! get yourself a beer and enjoy lief klein konijntje multiple times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 I'm going to start a thread about beer now for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jool Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 ...false ! ... cos they were still according to the IEC standard . FFS ok stay ignorant , im tyred discussing with ppl that dont take to facts ... FFS u kno wot , go ahead continue to believe in santaclaus & theeaster bunny .... ARG :x Please look up the history of the unit instead of just getting angry and calling me ignorant. I might have upped the paranoia for entertainment values but I'm not lying (too much). Everybody using and working with computers had come to the agreement where 1 kilobyte was equal to 1024 bytes while storage manufacturers were the only ones really opposed to that. There were a few more issues where people disagreed but nothing that really has any relevance today. I.e. nobody disagrees on what a megabit is anymore and floppys are kinda rare now (which were also a product of storage manufacturers btw). But because of one group disagreeing the IEC organization created a "standard" which made it so that the vast majority is wrong and the harddrive manufacturers are right. I'm sorry but I just can't accept a standard like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pha1sity Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 false ! ... cos they were still according to the IEC standard .FFS ok stay ignorant , im tyred discussing with ppl that dont take to facts ... FFS u kno wot , go ahead continue to believe in santaclaus & theeaster bunny .... ARG :x OMFG STFU!!!! Dont be an asshole just because the universe doesnt conform to your damn standards. A KB has and alwasy will be 1024 bytes to ANYONE that knows computers well, because thats just the way it is. For anyone to come along and try to make rules and post findings about it, doesnt make people think differently, and thats what matters. If a comp goes into the shop for a GB of RAM, its gonna get 1024. PERIOD!! Who cares what some committee said. There is W3C standards for web pages, but do all pages comply? NO, because people will do things the way they always have. If you cant handle things not being the way you like them, your in trouble when you hit the real world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 There's an easy way to solve this: 1. Go in to any computer shop and ask for a Gibibyte of RAM. 2. Get a blank look or get laughed at (or more likely be made to feel dumb because you will be corrected) 3. Walk out of the shop with your answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLSS Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 There's an easy way to solve this:1. Go in to any computer shop and ask for a Gibibyte of RAM. 2. Get a blank look or get laughed at (or more likely be made to feel dumb because you will be corrected) 3. Walk out of the shop with your answer. look u guys can all keep bitching bout this but facts rfacts the guys in that computer shop will say wot they learned them to say wich is 1024 but its wrong if u get though 5+4 = 10 and someone asks u wot is 5+4 ? u'll answer 10 still that doesn't make 5+4=10 now does it ? now if ure gonna continue bitching @least give some decent documentation from something that has authority over it and some explanation why its that way adn not the other way , (as i did if u would bother to read it) .... else its just discussing for the sake of discussing ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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