Sparda Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Since IDE drives are dying off I'm moving all my stuff to SATA drives. So, to try and make it easy as running a single command, I'm dd imaging my IDE drive to a SATA. They are identical in size. The command I am waiting to finish running is: dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/sda conv=noerror iflag=direct oflag=direct Both Windows and Kubutnu are installed on this drive. Who wants to predict which will boot first time or which could be made bootable at all? I suspect both will fail to boot initially, but I will be able to make kubuntu boot after playing with grub. I will probably have to reinstall windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyrancher82 Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Both will fail. Both expect to be booted from IDE drives, not SATA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unasoto Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 as long as you used something like ghost you should be fine I think which ever one in the MBR is first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 maybe sysprep windows beforehand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 I just got home to find it finished copying (it's really slow, 6.94 hours slow exactly). 122099292+0 records in 122099292+0 records out 250059350016 bytes (250 GB) copied, 24996.5 seconds, 10.0 MB/s So, lets see what happens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 My findings: GRUB loads no problem Kubuntu boots and gets stuck (presumably trying to mount /) Windows boots, and amazingly, with every thing working, not a single error. .... Nope, I can't get Kubuntu to boot, it keeps spamming messages such as these to the screen. Maybe it's not an issue that it doesn't like booting from a diffrent hard drive then the norm, but for what ever reason it doesn't like my RAID controller. Windows would like it because it alredy has the drivers for it (I'd guess). I'm taking this opportunity to install Kubuntu 64bit and see what 'issues' it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 windows ftw! should grub not point to sda instead of hda? and more importantly should you not be drunk at this point? bollinger ftw baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 windows ftw! should grub not point to sda instead of hda? and more importantly should you not be drunk at this point? bollinger ftw baby!lovin' that phone I see vako Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Having install Kubuntu 64 it is still struggling to work continuously giving the messages from my previous post. Now it does (eventually) get to the desktop. I think the root of the problem is my motherboards SATA controller having poor support. this probably means when I come to reinstalling windows it will say "YOU DON'T HAVE A HARD DRIVE. PLEASE INSERT A FLOPPY IN THE THE FLOPPY DRIVE YOU DON'T HAVE PLUGGED IN TO THE MOTHERBOARD WHICH CONTAINS DRIVERS FOR YOUR HARD DRIVE CONTROLLER". This is the exact reason I never wanted to use SATA drives in the first place. I also preferred the IDE for booting the OS because it has far better support. But since IDE as a connection type is dying off I don't have much choice in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Maybe there are better drivers with a different version of linux? Or just reinstall linux on the IDE side of the mobo and leave windows on the SATA drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Maybe there are better drivers with a different version of linux? Or just reinstall linux on the IDE side of the mobo and leave windows on the SATA drives. That defeats the point of getting rid of the IDE drives... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakey Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Why not have both you can run ide and sata together.Ii use my sata hdd as a storage hdd for games and movies and stuff i do see whats wrong with running both every seems to be against it but ive had no problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 this maybe? Since IDE drives are dying off I'm moving all my stuff to SATA drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'v put the Kubutnu not booting problems down to a stupid hard drive that has errors on it's disk (probably a bad choice to got for a maxtor). Spinrite found several errors on the kubuntu partitions, but interestingly non on the windows partitions. This is probably because the disk probably started to struggle in the middle of the dd operation (the windows partition been only 40GB and at the beginning of the disk). So it looks quite possible that had the drive I used not crapped out that both OS's would have booted flawlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Having install Kubuntu 64 it is still struggling to work continuously giving the messages from my previous post. Now it does (eventually) get to the desktop. I think the root of the problem is my motherboards SATA controller having poor support. this probably means when I come to reinstalling windows it will say "YOU DON'T HAVE A HARD DRIVE. PLEASE INSERT A FLOPPY IN THE THE FLOPPY DRIVE YOU DON'T HAVE PLUGGED IN TO THE MOTHERBOARD WHICH CONTAINS DRIVERS FOR YOUR HARD DRIVE CONTROLLER". This is the exact reason I never wanted to use SATA drives in the first place. I also preferred the IDE for booting the OS because it has far better support. But since IDE as a connection type is dying off I don't have much choice in this. VaKo had this same problem use FreeBSD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted January 2, 2008 Author Share Posted January 2, 2008 Small update: Spinrite has been running for 11 hours 5 minuets and has corrected 6,200 problem sectors. Is it too much for me to expect a hard drive to do a complete surface write accurately straight out of the box? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Is it too much for me to expect a hard drive to do a complete surface write accurately straight out of the box? Yes, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulbleed Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 Drives are 60% more likely to fail in the next 60 days if it has dead sectors. I wouldn't use it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 RMA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted January 3, 2008 Author Share Posted January 3, 2008 RMA Trouble is there is 'nothing wrong'. Meaning, if you don't make it write from the beginning of the disk to the end it's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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