twsSentinel Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Can they really be this bad at defending against a DDoS attack? My god, its been like a week straight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 The site currently isn't being hosted by Dreamhost. From the looks of it they're being hosted by oneandone.net If we were still on Dreamhost the site would be taken offline for a week like last time.. And you're better off directing your anger at that dickless turd that thinks DDOSsing a site is fun, and keeps at it for like a week straight already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twsSentinel Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 very true, but come on ... if you are going to operate a web hosting company, you have to plan for these contingencies. Unless this attacker has enough zombie machines, in the hundreds or thousands, there are ways to defend against attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Gerling Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 It's not that simple. A 20k botnet will take down fairly large online casino operations, so this sort of dedicated server business is no match. Defending against DDOS can be summed up in one word: Money. That's the only real defense you have, the cost is immense for the deep pipes you have to get backing you for the duration of the storm. Getting the guys ISP involved is the only way to stop this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 It's not that simple. A 20k botnet will take down fairly large online casino operations, so this sort of dedicated server business is no match. Defending against DDOS can be summed up in one word: Money. That's the only real defense you have, the cost is immense for the deep pipes you have to get backing you for the duration of the storm. Getting the guys ISP involved is the only way to stop this. well the botnet's is made up of already compromised computers... My suggestion is to post the IPs of the attacking computers. Worst case the computers OS is broken and they have a computer tech come by and fix it.. he removes the botnet and now that person is no longer unknowingly committing a crime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 The attacks began with the server going 100% of line and the load average on 100.00+, the fact that came back up and was working for the last week (yes, in a kinda crappy way) was only due to some liberties taken with apache's config and creative firewalling. Its not as simple as shouting at someone in support, and its not easy to tell apart bots from normal traffic without hours of time spent with wireshark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 Incidently things should be back to normal now, maybe a little faster. If you notice a problem, pm me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Kitchen Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 True, not dreamhost's problem. Probably something we should address on the show. We can't afford to throw money at bigger pipes so we're going with the only alternative. I don't wish to speak anymore on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 well the botnet's is made up of already compromised computers... My suggestion is to post the IPs of the attacking computers. Worst case the computers OS is broken and they have a computer tech come by and fix it.. he removes the botnet and now that person is no longer unknowingly committing a crime Do you honestly want to sift through thousands upon thousands of IPs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor512 Posted June 3, 2007 Share Posted June 3, 2007 goes to show hoe easy it is for any idiot to be a jerk http://www.grc.com/dos/grcdos.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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