dingoatemybaby Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Australia, to quote our national anthem land of the "young and free", is going to introduce mandatory internet censorship, the bill being introduced on Feb 2 this year, and if passed coming into full effect in late 2011. I need not insult your intelligence by saying that this is a pea-brained policy. What should I use to evade this stupidity and see what I want on the internet? Proxy? Tor? VPN? Something else? I add that I not much of a geek so keep it simple please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Rent a server in a different jurisdiction and setup a VPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 All of the above. Whatever works, stick with it, but for the most part, see what they actually end up censoring in the first place, who knows, might not see any difference, except maybe now you cant reach your favorite midget amputee porn site. j/k I would seriously see what is filtered first and then see what you need to do. SSH Tunneling through your own domain in the US would be my first try at web surfing, and it will evne work for uTorrent, but not all applications can use socks proxies, which means you will need to find some 3rd party api to proxy programs that dont have socks compatible features. For example, Opera, as much as I love it, does not have socks 5 capabilities, but there are tutorials on how to set it up with 3rd party apps and proxy to the local machine before connecting to your tunnel on the outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 TOR would work as long as you don't happened to use a exit node in Australia or countries with other such censorship ship. Your best bet really is to pay for a server you proxy all web traffic through, try and get it hosted some where that you will ever have to worry about stupid internet laws, Germany, Sweden, the Netherlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingoatemybaby Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 Point taken that I should see what is to be censored first. However at the very least I know that there is going to be overblocking - a lot of overblocking. The Australian government did its propaganda technical "report" about 3 months ago. Beneath the governement spin it shocks a shocking policy. Thus to "know" what is going to be censoored isn't really the point; as bad as that is the overblocking is the real point for me. Thus even if I have no interest in looking at explicit stuff [and I could of course go to Freenet anyway] I am still hampered. Worse, I will not know if I have been blocked in any search; it will just be a 404 or whatever. I add that for anyone interested the best sites that discuss this ludicrous plan are libertus.net or the forum whirlpool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingoatemybaby Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 A VPN seems best from people's responses. Eeven though it s$%#s me that I have to pay money because the Australian governhment wants to suck up to lunatics called the Australian Christian Lobby. OK. Which country? I add that I just do normal internet surfing. I am not trying to get Hulu, poker sites etc believe it or not. I am a student of computer programming; ironically I study by distance through O'Reilly Media in the US. Also, I have a dual booted computer - Windows 7/Ubuntu 9.10 - so is it better to put the VPN on the Windows or the Linux? Thanks for the help. You are entitled to gloat - whatever country you are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Blocked sites were posted on wiki leaks. Mind you that list is over a year old and new blocked content has surely been added since. +1 VPN on a over seas VPS. Honestly ubuntu linux or windows is not really a big deal, both are pretty easy to setup client and server wise. However open VPN on nix can be a sod if you have no idea what you are getting yourself into. Torrents are not filtered for now so you need not worry about encrypting torrent traffic unless you are worried about receiving one of those you have been naughty letters from your isp. Which is rare. My ISP started doing this a few months ago and I am yet to receive one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I wonder how much money you could make if you specifically offered a service for somethign like this. I know there are pay for VPN's out there, but wonder what it costs to maintain something like that as your own bussiness. If things get as bad as you all think it will, might be profitable to create a service just for Austrailia clients alone. Hmmm.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcninja Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Ya i can see that in the news in Australia: "is your son or daughter using a VPN to look at bad sites? find out at 11" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingoatemybaby Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 Actually a number of us have thrown that around - there will be a greater demand for VPNs of this stupid policy becomes a reality. I am not exagerrating. It is a really bad policy. I've met with people who work for ISPs in Australia. When I explained this policy to a person who does "takedown" notices for sites he said "that policy is f*&^(d". Yeah. The blacklist did end up on Wikileaks twice last year. It included a dentist, an astrology site that I have visited many times, a dog kennel business and other innocent examples of who knows what agenda. To get the blacklist put away the balaclava; all technical experts agree that simple ping-style reverse engineering is all that's needed. And then you have the most sordid collection of sites free for anyone to peruse. What a laughable way to see the very agenda - supposedly to end child pron - left in tatters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Ya i can see that in the news in Australia: "is your son or daughter using a VPN to look at bad sites? find out at 11" I can picture that too. I read up on this whole plan and it sounds like total BS to me. All it will do is waste money. It makes me wonder when we will reach the stage of: "If it's not good for you, it is bad and therefore illegal." Anyway... the VPN sounds like the best way to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deveant Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 good news, this year is an election year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deags Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 good news, this year is an election year. It is but no one will learn the lesson(they never learn, always getting conned by deceitful mobs). They will just protest vote greens and something dumb like that(pirate party?) who preference socialism anyway. I'd do a VPN as suggested. However, i wouldn't worry too much about the block list. It's not like a socialist government would lie to you and block more than just child porn. After it works well in socialist china. Kevin07(Gillard), Kevin11!!!!!!!!!!!! Dumbcunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 I lol'd at gcninja's comment, reminds me of the is your son a hacker thing on youtube. the stupidity of this plan was previously discussed in this thread and if your an Aussie it has been heavily discussed on whingepool, whoops I mean whirlpool. =P Even if this year is an election year I doubt the people opposed to the filter is large enough to do anything about it. The problem is the government accuses that anyone against the filter hates children or wears a pedo bear suit. The techno dyslexic Australian population don't understand that technology wise its a waste of time and money to implement not to mention the actual policy of banned content is rather vague and flimsy at best. Also worth noting that the above dentist and others that were blocked by the content filter were purely accidental. I also heard of a breast cancer charity that ended up in the false positive category. lol the irony is I just set up a home linux server a few weeks back in preparation to bypass my educational institutions content filtering so I can get some hak5 love on during class. Now the government are filtering my ass too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingoatemybaby Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 OK. Anyone used Wide VPN? They look good. One great feature of them is that with one account you can tunnel your VPN to ANY country. So, if I went US and din't like it then it's no sweat to go Holland, UK or anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I aint heard of that vpn provider but you have to ask yourself one thing, do you trust the exit nodes? (sparda mentioned the same thing with the TOR network) Traffic aint encrypted once it hits the vpn server. So if your just web browsing bollocks its fine but if you login to sites over your VPN (even by accident, like you forgot to turn off the VPN) it could be troublesome depending on your situation and use. I personally would rather have my own vpn server that I administrate and over see. However this comes at a cost and can be prohibitive to some. The upside is you can do more on your own Virtual Private server than just host VPN client connections. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSuperman Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 ...After it works well in socialist china. ... Umm, China is Communist. Big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deags Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 my bad. i thought they all murdered people. how wrong i am? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 my bad. i thought they all murdered people. how wrong i am? Only if your dumb enough to protest while standing in front of a moving tank. But I hear that's just the Chinese idea of natural selection, Darwin award anyone? *Que Command & Conquer Generals Chine has been generous voice over* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deags Posted January 18, 2010 Share Posted January 18, 2010 "Red is red wherever it is and I don't trust any of them." - Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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