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#1 VoxPopuli

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:11 PM

Hey, I just picked up a second hand Dell Latitude D810 laptop that has a bios password and I've been searching forums for a few hours and haven't come up with much. I tried calling Dell, but since I'm not an original owner they won't give me the admin password. This is my first time ever dealing with a bios password so I looked up as much as I could and found that you need to physically take the machine apart. I tried the simpler, non-invasive tactic of taking out the cmos battery for an hour, but apparently security on laptops are way tighter than desktops. Does anyone have experience with clearing the cmos on a laptop?

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 08:34 PM

use CmosPwd to either crack or kill the password (killing is easier)
check it out

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/CmosPwd

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 09:27 PM

take that little battery called the CMOS battery out for like 2 minutes then re-plug it back in, then the BIOS PW will be gone. It is a circular battery which resembles almost a wrist watch battery.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:11 PM

555: AFAIK CMOS batteries are soldered onto the laptop motherboards.
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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:23 PM

QUOTE (Psychosis @ Tue, 06 Oct 2009 23:11:37 +0000) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
555: AFAIK CMOS batteries are soldered onto the laptop motherboards.



I have not yet ever seen a laptop nor desktop which has a soldered CMOS battery to the motherboard. Maybe that has something to do with what country you are in? but I have not yet seen a soldered CMOS battery and have fixed over 100 different computers atleast, both laptops and desktops.. more desktops then laptops though.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 10:49 PM

Well, better news! I was able to successfully transfer the Dell Latitude 810 in my name and talk to a support rep.. but you know how that goes. They weren't able to retrieve the master password at this time and we'll see if I have any luck in the future. The CMOS battery is located beneath the laptop battery and I did remove it for over an hour. But I believe the machine has an EEPROm, which will store the master password indefinitely. After some hours of searching I found this http://www.darkmagic.../dell/dell.html, but I'm still sketch on taking it apart and not completely frying it.

I'm determined to get this machine running ohmy.gif

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:39 PM

QUOTE (VoxPopuli @ Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:11:33 +0000) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey, I just picked up a second hand Dell Latitude D810 laptop that has a bios password and I've been searching forums for a few hours and haven't come up with much. I tried calling Dell, but since I'm not an original owner they won't give me the admin password. This is my first time ever dealing with a bios password so I looked up as much as I could and found that you need to physically take the machine apart. I tried the simpler, non-invasive tactic of taking out the cmos battery for an hour, but apparently security on laptops are way tighter than desktops. Does anyone have experience with clearing the cmos on a laptop?



My advice to you would be to contact whoever you bought the notebook from. Aside from that, I believe there are some pins on the mobo that you can short to clear the password. I can't remember which pins they are though.

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Posted 08 October 2009 - 06:59 PM

Remove the battery as well as the CMOS for a few minutes than see if it still maintains it.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 10:21 AM

QUOTE (SomethingToChatWith @ Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:59:24 +0000) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Remove the battery as well as the CMOS for a few minutes than see if it still maintains it.



Did you read post #6 or even the first post?

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 10:26 AM

Haven't actually tried what's on this site, but it's worth a shot.

http://homepage.ntlw...udslat/paragon/

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (barry99705 @ Fri, 09 Oct 2009 08:21:40 +0000) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did you read post #6 or even the first post?


As a matter of fact yes. Not once did I see that both the battery AND CMOS were removed.

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Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:12 PM

thats because you don't have to tongue.gif it overwrites the password in the bios. no disassembly or removal of batteries needed. I use this all the time to mess with the computers at school (change the date to 2199, strange things happen)

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Posted 17 October 2009 - 02:38 PM

QUOTE (SomethingToChatWith @ Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:45:38 +0000) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As a matter of fact yes. Not once did I see that both the battery AND CMOS were removed.


There sometimes is a reset jumper (usually close to the battery) that will let you reset the the BIOS to the original settings, you could look for that...





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Posted 18 October 2009 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE (cedric @ Sat, 17 Oct 2009 15:38:27 +0000) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
There sometimes is a reset jumper (usually close to the battery) that will let you reset the the BIOS to the original settings, you could look for that...


I've never seen a reset jumper on a laptop.

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Posted 18 October 2009 - 09:49 AM

"These ones are something different. DELL notebooks save their BIOS password in an EEPROM-chip so it isn't deleted when you short-circuit the BIOS battery or something like that. Also there's no jumper/DIP-switch which disables the password."

Your going to need the Universal Password reset, if your Service ID for the laptop is -D35B, such as 8WG030J-D35B, then use a tool called Latitude_MasterPW.exe. Enter your service ID and it will give you your master password.




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