tim.vangehugten Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 It was already announced earlier but there isn't much of information on the site at the moment but I'm looking forward to it cause last time @ WTH 2005 I couldn't go So here is the site: http://wiki.har2009.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I'll be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 First I have heard about this, is any one else going from the UK? an what was it like at the last one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 First I have heard about this, is any one else going from the UK? an what was it like at the last one? It's a lot like the CCC camp, look on YouTube/Google Video there is a lot of footage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim.vangehugten Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 Last one was in the Netherlands. About 3000 people where there on the camping. To view how it was (it's about women a WTH : http://www.mosquito.net/wth_upwasch_en_400.avi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 wow so it's like a big out doors hakers / security conference?, count me in.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim.vangehugten Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 I was thinking about inscribing us in a village, the HAK5 village ^^ but its still a year waiting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I was thinking about inscribing us in a village, the HAK5 village ^^ but its still a year waiting. Yeah I'm coming with a large group off people that dislike Hak5 so count me out on the village thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxon Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 So whats the vil just a bunch of hak5 fans with tents set up in a little area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ls Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 i hope to be there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeGrijze Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I will be there in add the Wireless Camp/Village, and just a little warning in advance, coming with a so named Hak.5 group/village is a little bit asking for trouble. Most of the persons and groups that will be there add the campsite are hardcore hackers (yes and Crackers) and they just do not like softcore groups. So the change will be very likely that a softcore Hak.5 group wil just be nuked and nuked and nuked and nuked and so on. So my advice is when your are softcore or a nobody just try to blend in with out making your self really present. Gerard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 I will be there in add the Wireless Camp/Village, and just a little warning in advance, coming with a so named Hak.5 group/village is a little bit asking for trouble. Most of the persons and groups that will be there add the campsite are hardcore hackers (yes and Crackers) and they just do not like softcore groups. So the change will be very likely that a softcore Hak.5 group wil just be nuked and nuked and nuked and nuked and so on. So my advice is when your are softcore or a nobody just try to blend in with out making your self really present. Gerard Very true, anyone under that banner will be targeted, there is no question of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim.vangehugten Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share Posted August 31, 2008 It was just a propose:P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydT0ne Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 thats the kinda crap that well scares me sometimes...i'd like to know more but i never go to conventions for the fear of being ridiculed for asking questions and looking like a dick. it's almost like it's better to just go along and "look like you know what your on about". dunno..that's just how i feel. i guess a few more highly skilled people will end up saying, well if you don't know your shit you got no business being there. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esqulax Posted August 31, 2008 Share Posted August 31, 2008 ^^ Agreed ^^ The way i see this though, is as a "softcore" or "nobody", i wouldnt hear about the hardcore meets.. im just not in those circles. DEFCON and HOPE kinda expect newbies there, and so a are free with the advertising. Even the superest hacker in the world, asked these questions at one point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 thats the kinda crap that well scares me sometimes...i'd like to know more but i never go to conventions for the fear of being ridiculed for asking questions and looking like a dick. it's almost like it's better to just go along and "look like you know what your on about". dunno..that's just how i feel. i guess a few more highly skilled people will end up saying, well if you don't know your shit you got no business being there. thoughts? You can ask questions and your be fine, no one knows everything and cons are largely about having a laugh and learning something. I would strongly advise against "look like you know what your on about" as your be found out fairly fast and people may take the piss, fuck with your kit to prove a point or something else. The thing is it's not that people are out to get you because your new, but more likely that you are trying to make yourself look like something your not. Coming as a Hak5 group makes you stand out for bad reasons and would be an attempt to make you look like a group of hackers which although there are people on here that know what their talking about, I'd say those are the people that would not want to be tared with the Hak5 brush. To sum up, go, listen, ask questions, but blend in. The way i see this though, is as a "softcore" or "nobody", i wouldnt hear about the hardcore meets.. im just not in those circles. DEFCON and HOPE kinda expect newbies there, and so a are free with the advertising. Even the superest hacker in the world, asked these questions at one point The real hardcore meets would be like the Linux kernel developers summit which you would just not get invited to. The ones where they only want people that know what their talking about are all invite only, everything else expects a level of new people. The thing about hacking related cons is people like to fuck around with everyone else, sure you have pen testers that are a mixed bunch but you still have a handful of them that still want to play around. Something like Blackhat is purely professional, due to the cost but has people of all levels. You really have three types of cons the infosec professional stuff, which is expensive to attend, your learn quite a bit if your new, but its like going to a business meeting with sysadmin staff. Then you have the normal ones where anyone can come, there affordable, you can learn a lot but you have to wade through some crap, but they are a lot of fun. Finally you have invite only, which everyone know what there talking about, you may learn something new, they are largely cheap to attend and can be a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeGrijze Posted September 1, 2008 Share Posted September 1, 2008 metatron, dude you just told it all, you just hit the nail on its head. Good not told it any better, thank you. Gerard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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