nope Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 cain can record voIP correct? say on halo you text message people and talk to them, would that work? i dont know why anyone would actually do this, but what the hell. im curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Have you tried it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveMan Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 cain can record VOIP? man i gotta look into these features :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilml Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 Yes Cain can sniff VoIp: - Microsoft Messenger - X-Lite softphone - Pulver communicator - KPhone - Gnomemeeting - eStara softphone - Advanced Dialer - Pingtel SIP Softphone - SIPPS - OpenH323 - Asterisk - PhoneGaim - SJphone "List found in Cainøs User Manual" :P No Ventrillo or Teamspeak :S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nope Posted August 5, 2006 Author Share Posted August 5, 2006 i have not tried it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Famicoman Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 That woul be cool if it worked. Not useful, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted August 5, 2006 Share Posted August 5, 2006 I'd give it a whirl, since I don't have an xbox i can't say either way. It just depends on whether the Xbox team used regular VOIP stuff or designed there own. I'm guessing that it probally is regualar VOIP stuff, no need to reinvent the wheel, but they might have tweaked it to there needs. So, give it a try and report back on how it faired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrison Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Cain will sniff anything that uses SIP standards. Which should cover pretty much all VOIP programs out there except Skype, because Skype uses it's own proprietary protocol. But that was reversed recently, so it should be too long before that can be intercepted as well. I would take a look at Zfone tho if you are worried about your VoIP security :) Regarding the xbox question, it depends on how Xbox live transfers data. If they use standard protocols for voice communication then Cain should be able to pick it up just fine. Unfortunately doing a man in the middle attack on Xbox live would be rather difficult at first because the user would probably be able to immediately notice the terrible lag in the connection before you were able to start forwarding packets appropriately. Definitely an interesting question though. I would love to see someone try this out and write up a summary of the attack and the results. Again, I'm not sure how Microsoft set up the Xbox live network, and what sort of protocols it's using. Some simple tcpdumping should find this out though....unfortunately I don't have an xbox live account anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksecond Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 the VOIP protocol Live! uses is an custom protocol it is heavily zipped (you know made it smaller (forgot the correct word :P)), but it isn't encrypted like the rest of the packet, if you look into the XDK documentation you'll find the full packet documentation. the packets are custom build and so are the VOIP packets. cain can't read it, if you want to read it you'll have to build an sniffer yourself (and see if you can 'dezip' it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rFayjW98ciLoNQLDZmFRKD Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 the VOIP protocol Live! uses is an custom protocol it is heavily zipped (you know made it smaller (forgot the correct word :P)), but it isn't encrypted like the rest of the packet, if you look into the XDK documentation you'll find the full packet documentation. the packets are custom build and so are the VOIP packets. cain can't read it, if you want to read it you'll have to build an sniffer yourself (and see if you can 'dezip' it.) I think the big fancy word is "compressed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 the VOIP protocol Live! uses is an custom protocol it is heavily zipped (you know made it smaller (forgot the correct word :P)), but it isn't encrypted like the rest of the packet, if you look into the XDK documentation you'll find the full packet documentation. the packets are custom build and so are the VOIP packets. cain can't read it, if you want to read it you'll have to build an sniffer yourself (and see if you can 'dezip' it.) Dude, thanks for that! I was sure MS had fucked with something but I couldn't see them reinventing the VOIP wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoyBoy Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 a couple of my idiot friends tried this after i made the mistake to show the noobs cain and able. They gave up after five minutes of trying to get cain to work, so I dont know about this. sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksecond Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 the VOIP protocol Live! uses is an custom protocol it is heavily zipped (you know made it smaller (forgot the correct word :P)), but it isn't encrypted like the rest of the packet, if you look into the XDK documentation you'll find the full packet documentation. the packets are custom build and so are the VOIP packets. cain can't read it, if you want to read it you'll have to build an sniffer yourself (and see if you can 'dezip' it.) I think the big fancy word is "compressed" he! that's the word i was looking for! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nope Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 hmm. im quite the noob when it comes to cain. but the yea. regarding the lag, i would be able to tell right away that something was up. like when im uploading a video, the connection bar would turn red almost right away. but if i get the chance, i will try it. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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