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awesome thanks! The source for the alfa ap model awus036h is "source=rt8180,wlan0,ALFA" for the config file got it working now.. will i have to edit programs need to crack wep also? like aircrack_ng or airmon, airodump, ect..? Kismet is working but now airodump is giving me and error of ":~$ sudo airodump-ng wlan0 -w wepcrackingtest2 -c 1 ioctl(SIOCSIWMODE) failed: Device or resource busy ARP linktype is set to 1 (Ethernet) - expected ARPHRD_IEEE80211 or ARPHRD_IEEE80211_PRISM instead. Make sure RFMON is enabled: run 'ifconfig wlan0 up; iwconfig wlan0 mode Monitor channel <#>' Sysfs injection support was not found either." I allready did a ifconfig wlan0 up, but it still gave me that error, i also double checked with ifconfig and it shows it as active..

Overall I would say NO... BUT.. in certain classes and cases I would say Yes. The reason being is because everything they do on their laptop can be tracked by the school since it is school property, and a program like that may work out well with the "problem" kids at school. OR They should be able to apply to borrow one if their home residence does not have a computer in it allready, and their parents cant afford one and are working on minimum wage or "poor". They sign a paper so if they steal / run off with the laptop it goes against their credit until they pay the cost of it back, or a possible criminal theft charge if the school really wanted too. The school has enough information allready to track the student later on. I was fortunate to get a computer at 8 years old a commadore 64 and it helped me alot in learning how to use computers. I think every family home should have a computer in it. Just a basic laptop or pc that they can surf the net, do school work, create images, music and program apps and also has educational games..

How does your program crash it, buffer overload or something? do you offer a open source code for it? Im going for programming and would be interested in looking at it, if its available.. How does it keep reviving the process after its killed, by the schools server? (Im guessing student/teacher = client/server) with your program can I use the teacher process like the teacher does and view all the other pcs or view or use the teacher/admin options? program looks very nice from the picture, congradulations on some nice work. Thanks! :-)

Wow.. this thread is huge, I've got the same thing at my uni's pc's. Could i just put process explorer on a USB stick and shut down the lanschool process to prevent the teacher from takeing over my screen in those boring classes that I allready know the knowledge too? I will re-read everything in the thread again later

I am on BT3 live cd now on the desktop still getting an error.. it seems it works with the live cd on my laptop with windows but not my desktop with ubuntu .. this is the error i receive bt ~ # kismet Launching kismet_server: /usr/local/bin/kismet_server Suid priv-dropping disabled. This may not be secure. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled. Non-RFMon VAPs will be destroyed on multi-vap interfaces (ie, madwifi-ng) Enabling channel hopping. Enabling channel splitting. NOTICE: Disabling channel hopping, no enabled sources are able to change channel. Source 0 (addme): Opening none source interface none... FATAL: Please configure at least one packet source. Kismet will not function if no packet sources are defined in kismet.conf or on the command line. Please read the README for more information about configuring Kismet. (Where is this legendary Readme file at in linux "man kismet?") Kismet exiting. Done. it shows the ap device in ifconfig as wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:3 dropped:202 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 B) TX bytes:0 (0.0 B) but i had to manually find it by doing a "ifconfig wlan0 up" command my ap is a alfa usb model# awus036h.. How do i configure the config file or what do i need to do to configure it correctly? I have been useing nano editor for practice, so im guessing the command to edit would be "nano /etc/modules/kismet/kismet.conf" or something like that? What do I have to edit on every reboot? Thanks for all your help!

So I would goto whatsmyip.com or something and do a traceroute from my pc to my own IP to see the routers IP?

Dimitar, thanks.. I tried both in ubuntu useing sudo and not useing sudo in backtrack 3, I have a windows xp laptop that I run BT3 live cd with the same usb AP and it works great. I'm trying to run it with my desktop now which runs ubuntu and BT3 useing VMplayer instead of the live cd and keep getting errors. I went into the konsole on BT3 and when i type ifconfig it shows the wlan0 w/ mac address and everything, and also detects it in Ubuntus CLI. I tried just a simple "Kismet" command to get it to run and it gave me the error. When I goto Ubuntus wifi radar GUI program it shows it as working.. Also I tried to go into xchat with BT3 and it says not to go in as root and create a user account, but im unaware of how to do this on linux CLI, or in slackware. Any information is appriciated, thanks!

yeah to reset it, theres a very small button on the back of the router, then to set it back up with your wifi encryption and change or add and admin PW for the router the ip is ussually 192.168.1.1 or something like that possibly 192.168.1.2 , type that in your browsers address bar

Hello all, I have been playing with BT3 and keep getting this error when trying to run kismet "sudo kismet -c madwifi_g,wlan0,wlan0" (im useing a alfa ap, would that be considered a rougue ap?) Launching kismet_server: //usr/bin/kismet_server Suid priv-dropping disabled. This may not be secure. No specific sources given to be enabled, all will be enabled. Non-RFMon VAPs will be destroyed on multi-vap interfaces (ie, madwifi-ng) Enabling channel hopping. Enabling channel splitting. Source 0 (wlan0): Enabling monitor mode for madwifi_g source interface wlan0 channel 6... ERROR: Unable to create VAP: Operation not supported ERROR: Unable to create monitor-mode VAP WARNING: wlan0 appears to not accept the Madwifi-NG controls. Will attempt to configure it as a standard Madwifi-old interface. If you are using madwifi-ng, be sure to set the source interface to the wifiX control interface, NOT athX FATAL: Failed to retrieve list of private ioctls 95:Operation not supported Done. Also I tried to go into xchat with BT3 and it says not to go in as root and create a user account, but im unaware of how to do this on linux CLI, or in slackware. Any information is appriciated, thanks!

Yeah, props on the tutorial very nicely explained. I followed all directions, except one step which i had to do not listed on the tutorial is set up my AP manually.. BT3 did not recognize the Alfa AP so i had to do a "ifconfig wifi0 up" and pressing the "?" mark in kismet is a life saver lol I still have a question though.. I got to the part airodump-ng ath0 -w NAME YOUR SAVE FILE HERE -c CHAN NUMBER and it should have been cracking my WEP wifi router which i set up with a simple 8 char num/letter combo PW.. it was on like 2 and a half hours so i exited out.. i seen where it was done in like 5 minutes, for a simple PW that i put on it it should not take that long, I have a pretty fresh laptop.. or does it take that long? It found something that said BSSID not associated - probes hpsetup - and a station which looks like a MAC address. my wifi router is not a hewlett packard though.. abd why under the ESSID does it have two, one being my routers SSID and another saying "bcc" which reminds me of when you forward an email.. is this normal? what does the bcc man which has a diffrent BSSID? also how do you track the progress of how much longer it will take? There is no signals being sent across my wifi network right now, except for me trying to hack it, so is that why its not working? thanks

Which card do you mean? I have the alfa AP hooked up threw USB. Thanks for the break down of the difference between the two, so basically the ESSID is the name of the router or the name given to the router the "SSID" signal sent showing the name of the wifi routers signal, and BSSID is like the key for the WEP or WPA, which would need to be cracked from there unless it is easy to guess?, is there an easy way to just guess a passphrase for the WPA, instead of decrypting everything? I just seen on the home page Hak5 has a video entitled checking out your neighbors or something like that, so I may just go along with the video and practice on my own wifi router.

Thanks I found macchanger helpful , so I should replace Wlan0 with the SSID? Im not sure what a "E"SSID is, so im guessing since now i have installed aircrack-ng, all the other commands will work "airmon, aireplay, ect.." with ubuntu bash term? They didnt seem to work just now.. I prob did something wrong.. i tried the --help command on everything related to it.. btw what is the difference between a BSSID and a ESSID? thanks again!

ahh I see.. any good programs or tutorials to spoof your MAC for Ubuntu? and is aircrack-ng only command line? (so i could do aircrack-ng MAN and get directions?) I am in school for computer programming and this kind of stuff interests me.. thanks

Hello.. I am new to Ubuntu and recently got a Alfa AP so I can practice on my own wifi networks security, so for my first attempt I set my wifi router to WEP, since that seems to be the easiest. I installed "Wifi-Radar" for Ubuntu but it seems kind of plain, and has no options to try and practice threw a proxy.. I know it will work but how do I try and crack my own WEP key? What programs are good for Ubuntu? Im not good with Bash shell yet.. I guess I would like a tutorial or something so I can learn how to do it.. im sure the Hak5 crew must have a video tutorial laying around somewhere to teach me how to do this. (since i hate reading, videos are much better) something I can go step by step with while im trying on my own network, until I get it. Yes I know im a noob allready so please keep the flames down.. :-) Thanks

Bakb0ne, you are the man! Thanks for all your help..

I appriciate your help. What can be done to secure Ubuntu besides installing chkrootkit?.. I just installed Wireshark, I used it on windows previously but never fully understood how to use the filters and such..thanks

Buy a new one from walmart or bestbuy or some major business that can take a loss, then change the stickers from each other on the box's and the HD's, Then bring it back and say it dont work and you want a refund or store credit. Blamo! New Box that works for free, MS is shit when it comes to their warrantys, they dont offer shit for customer service.

I am new switching from Windows to Ubuntu, I installed Wine and then Cain and it does not work so what would be an equal program to crack say a SHA1 encryption in Ubuntu? I just got John the ripper but its all command line stuff, any good tutorials that you can suggest? How do I view all my ports? like In windows I could do a netstat -a or use a program called cports to view all traffic on my ports and terminate open ports when i wanted.. Also I am going to school and my next course will be a Visual basic course, can I make VB programs in Ubuntu? (without running windows in a Virtual machine, or useing wine?, they both seem to slow the system down) and finally.. is Ubuntu easy to hack? say I am a noob linux user but advanced MS user with XP SP2.. which do you honestly think would be safer to run? thanks

Any suggestions? I want to find an awesome sticker to put on my new laptop to cover the emachines symbol.. I dont want a advertisement sticker on there. Somthing funny or attention getting...

It depends on what you would like to do. Maybe use one as a torrent / test box, one as a http server, ftp server, media center hooked to your TV wifi, ect.. its up to your imagination on what you want to do with all of those boxes. Too many boxes should never be a problem lol If your a nice guy, and dont need that many boxes then why not install a basic ubuntu or windows, or something on them and give them away to young family members or kids in your community that dont have or cant afford computers to learn on that will really use it, and are genuine about learning about computers. Just let them all know ahead of time you dont offer tech support, and to learn the art of googling xD

I just got a new alfie with a 8gbi antenna.. very nice! The only thing I really want to do is test it against my own WEP / WPA wifi router, BT3 i hear is the ultimate tool to go along with this do you really think aircrack is the best for windows? I am looking for something to brute force WEP / WPA on my network as a test I have heard of other programs out there as well.. just wondering if the majority here thinks aircrack is best for win xp users

First off I do not use metasploit. Never have. I am a computer programming student so i am more of a computer enthuiest. In no way am i ever saying im "elite hacker" or whatever.. just as my name states i am still learning, and asking questions here because this seems to be a good community of people. I dont take any of the help for granted and apprciate everyones help and in no way was trying to "cut off Digip" as you said, and Vector thanks for your help. Awesome post. I am a new student and just learning how to translate base codes and soder electric boards and all of that good stuff.

Trying to get the largest radius of wifi signal that i can possibly get for the cheapest. The first link you gave me said it was like 170$ and got a one mile range for wifi, I have heard about the pringle can thing but you have to have a PCI wifi card port for that right? The laptop i am getting has regular rj45, rj11, built in wifi and usb connections.. whats up with pineapple? isnt that some sort of external wifi thingy.. i am new to this as i have only used my wifi for my xbox 360 pretty much

What kind of special setup or antenna do I need to get w/ the FON?

Yeah but would it really get a range like that w/ the moded FON (1.5 miles range?) The built in one will prob only get 1000ft at max right? I am going for the most range as possible. Thanks