Deags Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 This site is lol. wait till you see the story pictures http://bnp.org.uk/ just a few headlines of lol: Asian Wars on Britain’s Shores Taxpayer-funded Trevor Phillips Helping Immigrants to Circumvent the Law Preserving British Identity: The British National Party’s Immigration Policy No Money for Police, but Plenty to Spy on School Seekers or Rubbish Bin Offenders Britain First — The Simple Logic of BNP Foreign Affairs Policy Barack Hussein Obama: Gordon Brown’s New Anti-White Friend These guys are blunt and i feel if they changed their damned image and smartened up a bit alot of people would get on board. For now they are just a joke who will probably get a 5% swing. I feel their would be too many radicals amoung the ranks of the party to warrent a vote from me if i were a brit. I feel nick griffin is very smart and makes some good arguments. But seriously if you want to have a chuckle they post new articles everyday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Thing is they would want me to leave the country because I'm not pure. They're small minded nationalists who can't see the bigger picture, and use real problems in britians imigration policy to sell racist ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markhimself Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 i agree with this party - its a shame they cant get a bigger vote though. ill definatly vote for them, that or, JEDI LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 No its really not a shame, they represent the absolute worst of the little englander mindset. Everything is someone elses fault (usuallly they are Outsiders, brown or from the evil european empire), or not english enough. They would make me a 2nd class citizen just because of my name and background, despite me being a british citizen by birth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markhimself Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 no no not that. its the whole british jobs thing. people who will work for less, get the job, and somewhat are making more and more british citizens unemployed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Then you should look at British education and the fact that it utterly fails to prepare people for the working world these days. Or the fact that lower paying jobs are looked down upon by most people, as are immigrants (by a lot of people). I've worked in really poor jobs (12hrs on, 12hrs off factory work) and immigrants are more prepared to do these jobs (I know people who would rather be on the dole than work these types of jobs). Look at the Polish who came over perfectly legally to work in jobs where the british workers weren't whilling to do them, then look at the fact that as soon as the Polish economy picked up they started taking there skills and earned money, going back to poland and investing in them locally. The thing about the Italian and Spanish workers recently, the british company lost the contract due to poor management and the other british companys wanted more breaks, shorter hours and more pay. In a free market this won't win and the only way to fix stuff like this is to legislate working conditions, but EU attempts to do this have been blocked by the british goverment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deleted Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 Yes, I do have a laugh at the BNP rather a lot. But, I agree fully on some of their policys such as deporting foreign criminals, why should we pay to feed/house someone who has come here and broken our laws? (I disagree with the racism etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 The filpside of that issue is that why should you be able to come to the UK, commit a crime and get away with no reprocussions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webjockey Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 I live in the UK, and I am not of British descent, but, over here, nobody really sees the BNP as a threat: the party themselves at their foundation, relies on a minority vote to succeed, and thats just not a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3%5kr3w Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 HOLY SHIT!!! It Is just like the United States :oP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted April 23, 2009 Share Posted April 23, 2009 British National Party (BNP) chairman Nick Griffin has defended a party leaflet which says that black Britons and Asian Britons "do not exist". The BNP's "Language and Concepts Discipline Manual" says the term used should be "racial foreigners". In a BBC interview, Mr Griffin said to call such people British was a sort of "bloodless genocide" because it denied indigenous people their own identity. Mr Griffin is standing in the European Parliament elections in June. The BNP manual, leaked to the anti-fascist group Searchlight and seen by the BBC, says that "BNP activists and writers should never refer to 'black Britons' or 'Asian Britons' etc, for the simple reason that such persons do not exist". "These people are 'black residents' of the UK etc, and are no more British than an Englishman living in Hong Kong is Chinese. "Collectively, foreign residents of other races should be referred to as 'racial foreigners', a non-pejorative term... The key in such matters is above all to maintain necessary distinctions while avoiding provocation and insult." The manual describes the BNP's "ultimate aim" as the "lawful, humane and voluntary repatriation of the resident foreigners of the UK". Commenting on the leaflet's content, Mr Griffin told The Report on Radio 4 that although "in civic terms they are British, British also has a meaning as an ethnic description". "We don't subscribe to the politically correct fiction that just because they happen to be born in Britain, a Pakistani is a Briton. They're not; they remain of Pakistani stock. "You can't say that especially large numbers of people can come from the rest of the world and assume an English identity without denying the English their own identity, and I would say that's wrong," he added. "In a very subtle way, it's a sort of bloodless genocide." http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8011878.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swathe Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 The BNP will never pose a real political threat whilst mebers of Blood and Honour, Combat 18 and the like are within their ranks. If they smarten themselves up and lose the association with hard right extremists ans skinheads, they could grow quite populour. They will always have the workers ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deags Posted April 24, 2009 Author Share Posted April 24, 2009 today i was reading this on the bnp site. Japanese Government Adopts BNP Policy: Pays Foreigners to Go Home I can't help but think this policy may have been adopted from an idea proposed right here in Queensland. A brochure written and distributed in Cunnamulla by 66-year-old Paroo Shire mayoral candidate Kevin Wise pledges to ask the federal government to pay $50,000 ($NZ58,322.64) to each of the 25 local indigenous families to move out of the shire. http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/312834 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 Well, the Japanise have always disliked foriegners, and australia still treats the native population like shit. The funny thing about this is that this petty idea that the lines on the map actually mean something when it comes to the movement of populations is realtively new. People migrate around the world for many reasons, its why people are found everywhere, so imigration has been the norm for hundreds of thousands of years. White people in places like australia and the US complaining about immigration is such a joke anyway, for obvious reasons. Attempting to ban it is akin to trying to ban the migration of birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetelectric Posted April 24, 2009 Share Posted April 24, 2009 mmm I guess this is what happens when people forget history. Read up on their local activities in 80s, 90's, come on, being on this site i'm sure you consider yourselves intelligent, cut through the bullshit. Voting for a bunch of knuckle dragging racists because some of the things they say make sense. Nuts. I think Hitler liked books and built good roads wouldn't catch me voting for a bunch of nazi saluting nutters because there are a bunch of potholes in my road. For god sake if immigration issues get you wet vote UKIP or something. I'll give them credit though, they have done a good marketing PR job, maybe the U.S KKK should try the same. Wouldn't suprise me if they did. I believe ol' Nicky and one of the head wizards have met Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swathe Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 and australia still treats the native population like shit. That's a ludicrous statement. Yes, once they were treated poorly. Now, they are given every advantage and the oppurtunity to succeed is there for the taking. Blaming english settlers is getting a little ridiculous now. If they want to be regarded as equal than they should stand as a proud people and start taking advantage of the benefits they receive. I grew up poorer and in worse circumstances than 90% of them that carry on today about inequality. I am responsible for the actions i take in life, not the people that hurt me. It's just making excuses for their own short comings and lack of motivation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 This is the thing about people today, no sense of the scale of history. To suddenly stop oppressing people who were oppressed for hundreds of years and then cite as fact that within a generation or 2 anyone who isn't doing better isn't trying shows a huge lack of perspective. You can't fix things like this over night. Its going to take generations for the effects of European colonialism to dissipate fully, long after we're dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swathe Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 So luckily that scale of history allows the aboriginal people to take no responsibility for the race they wiped out when they crossed the land bridge to this continent. My whole point is that rather than accept the fact the today things are changing and they are going to get as much help as possible, they prefer to use the past as a weapon against the people trying to help. They ought to be thankful the dutch didn't colonize here first. I am not of English descent and I never apologize for things I didn't do, and I have 3 kids that get to see the aboriginals put up on a pedastool for making half the effort they do. Racism isn't dead, it's just gone 180 degrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deags Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'm going to have to chime in on the chime line. Thanks to the Whitlam Government. We now have a generation of indigenous people relying on handouts. As far as I can see no government Liberal or Labor has acted to reduce the cash handed out. However the NT intervention has showed some success but it still does not send the ideal message which I believe to be “live freely like everyone else”. You guys should check out reverse racism in South Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swathe Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 There is no way they would want true equality because it would mean no more free money thats handed out to them that the rest of us miss out, even though we put in the work and pay the taxes. Don't get m e wrong, I hate deadshit white people as well. I live in a town called Rockhampton ATM, and you can freely see the impact of free money and it taking the incentive away to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deags Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 Swathe too right. Yeah bludgers are drain on the system and community. I got a Socialist Alliance pamphlet in my mailbox during election time. I always like to read what everyone has to offer me so I have an informed vote. It started off with a paragraph about what Socialist Alliance stands for equality and all the normal far left BS. Then the first dot point for this candidate was something like pay back lost wages to aboriginal Australians. Doesn't sound equal to me… a race based policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted April 27, 2009 Share Posted April 27, 2009 So my point still stands then, Australia still treats the Aboriginal people like shit, it may not be putting them in Ghettos or taking there children away to be raised "properly" anymore, but saying to someone "your a special case, you don't have to try as hard" is still going to cause problems in the long run. If you look at the south African situation with the laws about black owned businesses etc its the same thing. The best thing I've heard about that situation is that its not the answer, its going to take time for education and the social background required to do something with an education to equalize and that you can't force these things. What most people lack today is the courage and forsite to see beyond there own lifespan, this is doubley so in politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deags Posted April 27, 2009 Author Share Posted April 27, 2009 something i found on youtube. i used to live on a farm a few kms out of this town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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