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There are a ton of posts right now talking about different issues around the usage of mobile broadband USB dongles. So my question, does ANYONE have a 3G, 4g, or gsm USB dongle working well out of the box? If so, what model? What provider? Currently I am tethering using my pwnphone, but after about an hour, it'll disconnect and I'll have to reboot and start over, so could anyone provide us with an example of a working setup? Also, is anyone else using the pwnphone for tethering?

Thanks ahead of time!

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Yea, I would like to know this as well.

I'm planning to buy a 3G or 4G dongle soon, so if anyone knows a specific brand/model that works, more or less, out of the box, then please share with us. :)

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I seem to remember that the Wifi Pineapple runs on a tweaked version of OpenWRT.
You should be able to lookup certain 3G dongles up on the OpenWRT wiki list of compatiable devices :)

Maybe Seb or Darren can shed some light on this matter.

PS: This is for OpenWRT, might work on wifi pineapple as well
http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/recipes/3gdongle

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Here here! I'd like to have some more info on this as well. There's scant documentation, even for the Mark IV, on how to get this up and running. Links to "compatible modems" and "configuration guidelines" are broken. The Mark V is advertised as having support for this "out of box". Apparently that also means "out of luck".

I've been struggling with this for 2 months. Going through the mobile broadband parameters for a 4G LTE stick (LG VL600) on Verizon has been nothing but trial and error. This seems like it shouldn't be nearly this hard. I'd rather be using this time more productively on applying the Pineapple and extending its capabilities. Can we at least create some stickies with posts from users who've found some success? Even with the Mark IV?

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As of firmware 1.1.1 the supported modems include:

03f0:002a
0421:060c
0421:0610
0421:0622
0421:0627
0421:062c
0471:1210:uMa=Philips
0471:1210:uMa=Wisue
0471:1237
0482:024d
04bb:bccd
04e8:689a
04e8:f000:sMo=U209
057c:84ff
05c6:1000:sVe=GT
05c6:1000:sVe=Option
05c6:1000:uMa=AnyDATA
05c6:1000:uMa=DGT
05c6:1000:uMa=Option
05c6:1000:uMa=SAMSUNG
05c6:1000:uMa=SSE
05c6:1000:uMa=Vertex
05c6:2000
05c6:2001
05c6:6503
05c6:f000
05c7:1000
072f:100d
07d1:a800
07d1:a804
0930:0d46
0ace:2011
0ace:20ff
0af0:6711
0af0:6731
0af0:6751
0af0:6771
0af0:6791
0af0:6811
0af0:6911
0af0:6951
0af0:6971
0af0:7011
0af0:7031
0af0:7051
0af0:7071
0af0:7111
0af0:7211
0af0:7251
0af0:7271
0af0:7301
0af0:7311
0af0:7361
0af0:7381
0af0:7401
0af0:7501
0af0:7601
0af0:7701
0af0:7706
0af0:7801
0af0:7901
0af0:7a01
0af0:7a05
0af0:8200
0af0:8201
0af0:8300
0af0:8302
0af0:8304
0af0:8400
0af0:8600
0af0:8800
0af0:8900
0af0:9000
0af0:c031
0af0:c100
0af0:d001
0af0:d013
0af0:d031
0af0:d033
0af0:d035
0af0:d055
0af0:d057
0af0:d058
0af0:d155
0af0:d157
0af0:d255
0af0:d257
0af0:d357
0b3c:c700
0b3c:f000
0cf3:20ff
0d46:45a1
0d46:45a5
0df7:0800
0e8d:7109
0fce:d0cf
0fce:d0e1
0fce:d103
0fd1:1000
1004:1000
1004:607f
1004:613a
1004:613f
1004:614e
1004:6190
1004:61dd
1004:61e7
1004:61eb
1033:0035
106c:3b03
106c:3b05
106c:3b06
1076:7f40
1199:0fff
1266:1000
12d1:1001
12d1:1003
12d1:1009
12d1:101e
12d1:1030
12d1:1031
12d1:1414
12d1:1446
12d1:1449
12d1:14ad
12d1:14b5
12d1:14b7
12d1:14c1
12d1:14c4
12d1:14c5
12d1:14d1
12d1:14fe
12d1:1505
12d1:1520
12d1:1521
12d1:1523
12d1:1553
12d1:1557
12d1:1c0b
12d1:1d50
12d1:1da1
12d1:1f01
12d1:380b
1307:1169
1410:5010
1410:5020
1410:5030
1410:5031
1410:5041
1410:5059
148e:a000
148f:2578
16d8:6281
16d8:6803
16d8:6804
16d8:700a
16d8:700b
16d8:f000
198a:0003
198f:bccd
19d2:0003
19d2:0013
19d2:0026
19d2:0040
19d2:0053
19d2:0083
19d2:0101
19d2:0103
19d2:0110
19d2:0115
19d2:0146
19d2:0149
19d2:0166
19d2:0169
19d2:1001
19d2:1007
19d2:1009
19d2:1013
19d2:1171
19d2:1175
19d2:1179
19d2:1201
19d2:1216
19d2:1224
19d2:1517
19d2:1520
19d2:2000
19d2:bccd
19d2:ffde
19d2:ffe6
19d2:fff5
19d2:fff6
1a8d:1000
1a8d:2000
1ab7:5700
1b7d:0700
1bbb:f000
1bbb:f052
1c9e:1001
1c9e:6061
1c9e:9200
1c9e:9800
1c9e:9e00
1c9e:f000
1da5:f000
1dd6:1000
1de1:1101
1e0e:f000
1e89:f000
1edf:6003
1ee8:0009
1ee8:0013
1ee8:0040
1f28:0021
1fac:0032
1fac:0130
201e:1023
201e:2009
2020:f00e
21f5:1000
230d:0001
230d:0007
8888:6500

If you lsusb your modem and it's on that list -- it'll modeswitch for use as mobile broadband. /etc/The settings you use are dependent on your ISP.
/etc/hotplug.d/usb/20-modeswitch will modeswitch and dial your modem upon detection. /etc/pineapple/mobile-keepalive will maintain the connection.
I use a Novatel MC760 from Ting. It's VID & PID are 1410:5030. When modeswitched it becomes 1410:6000. For me the settings are:
interface name: ppp0
protocol: 3g
service: cdma
device: /dev/ttyUSB0
username: internet
password: internet
defaultroute: 1
ppp_redial: persist
peerdns: 0
dns: 8.8.8.8 (or you can use whatever)
keepalive: 1
pppd_options: noauth
We just switched the modem list over to the wiki and I'm going through my 3 or 4 known good modems to test and will update the page at http://wiki.wifipineapple.com/index.php/Compatible_Modems
A lot of the settings are common among the modems however there are usually ISP specific settings like APN and user/pass that will change.
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Okay, had a chance to dink with this a bit.

My modem is not on the list you posted above. I've upgraded to 1.2.0 and applied the patch for the broadband support that just came out. Still no dice.

lsusb reports the device as Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1004:61aa LG Electronics, Inc. Still, I'm unable to invoke 20-modeswitch to see if that recognizes it and I don't see any other way to map that device to any /dev/tty. My dial config is pretty close to yours, but obviously set to support Verizon (what I can gather is needed to support Verizon's LTE on the LG stick).

I know this stick works great, because I use it on my MBP all the time. There are drivers for it available for Linux, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal. It's not an sd card reader or anything complex like that, so this should be pretty pnp, but I still can't get it to work. What direction can you point me in?

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Is there any info on what needs to be done to support additional devices?

I'd like to use my Nokia n900 in 'pc suite mode' (0421:01c8) - this works fine as USB modem out of the box on all linux ditributions I used so far, so my feeling is it should be possible.

I'm not an expert in this area but maybe with a few pointers I can figure it out?

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Alright, I've grown pretty frustrated at the lack of documentation and support for this feature. I've used several usb sticks and I cannot get anything to work. There's no documentation of what tools are available for troubleshooting or even configuration. The wiki link Darren points to above has NEVER been updated and there's no info there to start with. This is an advertised feature and one that I specifically bought the mk5 for, yet after **6 months** of cranking on it, I've yet to find a working configuration. C'mon guys!

My questions are simple:

1) what devices (brand and model) are supported plug n play? I don't want the hex addresses out of lsusb. That doesn't help me find a support device. Specifically I'm looking for 4G LTE devices on Verizon.

2) for devices that are not supported, what tools are available to add support? Surely there must be the ability to add drivers or just additional configurations just like any other device you'd add to a linux system. The lack of documentation for BusyBox is appalling.

Without some help here, I'm gonna have to abandon the pineapple altogether.

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There's good info and there's bad info here.

Let's start with the bad: Unless someone else on this forum has managed to get one of those things working themselves, the best answer you're going to get is that it _should_ work for certain devices with, as you mention, specific vendor/product ID codes. You can look up what those codes are here but that site doesn't know about all devices out there so it's almost certainly incomplete. Provides a starting point though.

So let's move on to the slightly better news. In this thread instructions are provided to get the Pantech UML 290 4G LTE USB modem going with Verizon from Linux. Way at the bottom there's a complete list of instructions to follow to get up and running with the noted caveat that if there's 4g coverage in your area it ought to work right out of the box. That's about as close as you can get to having guarantees it will work: someone back in 2011 managed to do it so it ought to work for you. Ought to.

Can't make it any prettier than that.

Maybe Sebkinne or someone can answer this bit:

That Pantech device is 106c:3718 which gets modeshifted to 106c:3714 and the question is if this is supported by firmware 1.4.0?

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Alright, I've grown pretty frustrated at the lack of documentation and support for this feature. I've used several usb sticks and I cannot get anything to work. There's no documentation of what tools are available for troubleshooting or even configuration. The wiki link Darren points to above has NEVER been updated and there's no info there to start with. This is an advertised feature and one that I specifically bought the mk5 for, yet after **6 months** of cranking on it, I've yet to find a working configuration. C'mon guys!

My questions are simple:

1) what devices (brand and model) are supported plug n play? I don't want the hex addresses out of lsusb. That doesn't help me find a support device. Specifically I'm looking for 4G LTE devices on Verizon.

2) for devices that are not supported, what tools are available to add support? Surely there must be the ability to add drivers or just additional configurations just like any other device you'd add to a linux system. The lack of documentation for BusyBox is appalling.

Without some help here, I'm gonna have to abandon the pineapple altogether.

You're right - our lack of documentation and support for this feature is appalling. Getting a USB Modem can feel like magic when you get one working, because so many don't and the ones that do require a lot of tweaking. This is a very difficult feature to tackle because there are so many variations from manufacturer to product to product version plus all of the carriers.

I have 4 or 5 that work great, and have more on the way. It's sort of the thing that once you find one that works you just stick to that.

I'll be picking up some more today and should have a video up tonight on the ones I have in my collection. It's my hope that we can put together a list of supported out-of-the-box modems from which you can select default configs from a drop-down in the mobile broadband menu. Doing to will require breaking the menu out into an updatable infusion and adding some way for others to share their known working configs. I'm all ears on a good method for this.

One of the issues is that carriers, at least here in the states, have for the most part dropped traditional usb modems. Mostly what you see now are "personal wifi hotspots" like the MiFi since consumers couldn't figure out how to install windows/mac connection software *facepalm*. Thankfully some of these support usb tethering, which is actually a better solution for us as we don't need to micromanage the connection.

There's good info and there's bad info here.

Let's start with the bad: Unless someone else on this forum has managed to get one of those things working themselves, the best answer you're going to get is that it _should_ work for certain devices with, as you mention, specific vendor/product ID codes. You can look up what those codes are here but that site doesn't know about all devices out there so it's almost certainly incomplete. Provides a starting point though.

So let's move on to the slightly better news. In this thread instructions are provided to get the Pantech UML 290 4G LTE USB modem going with Verizon from Linux. Way at the bottom there's a complete list of instructions to follow to get up and running with the noted caveat that if there's 4g coverage in your area it ought to work right out of the box. That's about as close as you can get to having guarantees it will work: someone back in 2011 managed to do it so it ought to work for you. Ought to.

Can't make it any prettier than that.

Maybe Sebkinne or someone can answer this bit:

That Pantech device is 106c:3718 which gets modeshifted to 106c:3714 and the question is if this is supported by firmware 1.4.0?

Per the USB Modeswitch device reference: http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/device_reference.txt

#######################################################
# Pantech UML290
#
# Contributor: Davis Ford

DefaultVendor= 0x106c
DefaultProduct=0x3b11

TargetVendor=  0x106c
TargetProduct= 0x3718

MessageContent="5553424312345678000000000000061b000000020000000000000000000000"

So yes, it should be supported. That said you'll need to know the carrier specific configuration options. I can only guess at those as I don't have Verizon service nor this dongle.

I'm going by T-Mobile today to buy their latest dongle for *hopefully* approved and fully supported status. I'll see if I can't do the same with Verizon.

D

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whatever became of this effort? I noticed you did a video around this same time (suggestion: it would've been great had you included a link to that in this thread. I just happened upon it a few days ago) and came to the conclusion that the mobile hotspots were the way to go when set to tethering mode. I can see the appeal, although it's kind of dumb to have the Pineapple supply power to the hotspot, since they all have built in batteries. In any case, the wiki page you splash in the video looked all nice and updated, but I can't find it on the current wiki. Has the 2.x firmware improved on this feature set any? I know I keep harping on this, but the Pineapple just sits and collects dust for me without being able to deploy mobile connectivity.

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Nearly every modern modem I've tested since visiting this last supports cdc_ether or RNDIS. There are still some funky ones out there, but it's becoming more rare when it comes to carrier sold modems. We're in the same boat as every other openwrt (or Linux for that matter) project. My advise, get one that supports tethering. Sure the serial based ones on the supported list work - but why do the heavy lifting of managing a complex mobile broadband connection on the pineapple side when the newer modems manage themselves. My favorite right now is the Huawei E355. It enumerates at eth1 and "just works ™"

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I have a Nov 5510L with Verizon that works solid as a rock tethered. Right out of the box? No, and not with the MK5 web setup. Darren posted some CL stuff awhile back - simple stuff - that makes it work hotplugged. One thing I can tell you is that it's worth the trouble. It's solid, stable, and awakens an Easter egg of sorts with regard to the Verizon 5510L. Here's what that is:

I get consistently and significantly faster speeds as a MK5 wireless client than I get using the hotspot direct-wireless. I think that has to do with the 5510L bypassing a lot of internal buggy wireless hotspot crap when tethered. Suppose I could tether it to my laptop and compare speeds, but what fun is that?

It does provide clients connected to the MK5 seamless and stable internet. So much so that I have to portion its use or the clients will use up my 10 monthly gig quickly if I screw up and leave the MK5 tethered and on for a couple of days.

Had people doing Windows updates on my dime. I don't blame them. My MK5 was a lot faster than the hotel Wifi.

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Hey guys, I have an Samsung S4 that I'd like to tether via USB (rather than wifi teather)

Has anyone tried this before? Is it possible?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

I have a GS4 as well and I've tried multiple times to no avail. I even posted a question about it awhile back with zero response so if you get it working please let me know. I may take another shot at it again soon.

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Yeahh I plugged my S4 into my Mkv and at first my phone started freaking out.

Afterwards all was ok. No internet connection though. :(

A great alternative to USB tethering would be allowing the mkv to connect to a hidden AP.

I had my Samsung S4 tethering in hidden mode but the mkv can't seem to see it. :(

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hmm, I rooted my S4 a while back. Do you think that might help me tether? Android 4.4 has the option to tether via wifi/bluetooth/USB.

Today i was looking around Amazon for a Hotspot device. I think you could buy unlocked ones, can't you?

Cheers!

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hmm, I rooted my S4 a while back. Do you think that might help me tether? Android 4.4 has the option to tether via wifi/bluetooth/USB.

Today i was looking around Amazon for a Hotspot device. I think you could buy unlocked ones, can't you?

Cheers!

I only mentioned rooting because I've read I can use my phone as a hotspot without paying the additional fee to Sprint if my phone is rooted.

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I just wanted to add to this post , I have a tmobile ZTE mf96 (also refered to as Sonic 2.0) , when I plug it into my pineapple, it shows up as eth1, and just needs me to udhcpc -i eth1 in order to work. However, sometimes the device requires me to login to its management page and click connect in order for it to get internet access. But I would definitely consider this as working "out of the box" and you guys should add it to the wiki as a known out of box working via usb tethering.

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