Random_N00b Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Does anyone know anything solid about this supposed closed door meeting that some governments are having in regards to supposed Internet Censorship? I got one of those emails from Google, but it didn't really have a whole lot of solid information about what this meeting is, other than what I just said. This is the first I've heard about this ITU, and would like to know if anyone has any kind of info about it. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radau Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Check the fightforthefuture website, they might have some info on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random_N00b Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 Thank you. They do in fact have some info on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random_N00b Posted November 22, 2012 Author Share Posted November 22, 2012 I'm going to post this. I think it may be worth looking at. Or I'm shamelessly posting something that could get me banned. Not sure. Either way, the open-ness of the internet may be at risk. http://www.whatistheitu.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbass Posted November 22, 2012 Share Posted November 22, 2012 Whoa wait just a minute what does this mean for the gnu gpl and open source comunity. If anything I see them trying to do something about multicast traffic as in voice and video. Keep the telcos in business limiting things that take business away from them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwnd2Pwnr Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The proposed bills failed I do believe... On the contrary; Police now need a WRITTEN search warrant from a judge before viewing ANY emails. Before this bill passed; the last law written about email privacy was in 1986... a wee bit outdated, huh? Well, the Justice system doesn't always fail... and I think this is one win for us! http://www.nbcnews.com/technology/technolog/senate-committee-oks-bill-requiring-warrant-email-cloud-search-1C7316741 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radau Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Here's some more info on that if anyone's interested: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random_N00b Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Wow, for once we got a win. I kind of hate to say this, but I'm sure this win is short lived. I'm sure some other piece of legislation will come around to nullify that. Oh well. Thanks for the info though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murder_face Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Not sure how many of you frequent slashdot but: http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/12/05/0115214/itu-approves-deep-packet-inspection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radau Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA that is all I have to say about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random_N00b Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 So, what exactly would "Deep Packet Inspection" mean? I'm guessing that all of our traffic get's inspected by a governing body, and if we do something "wrong" they'll take action against us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radau Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I'd imagine it would be an automated system that would watch for suspicious and/or illegal activity. I highly doubt they have the manpower to sit there and literally go through every single packet unless it was for a person of interest, but a machine could do it easy. Hell they already dump all of our hotmail/gmail/yahoo email data to a storage server "just in case", I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar but with all of this data. I guess we'll really just have to wait and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwnd2Pwnr Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I would say I am a "Deep Packet Inspector"...that's what she said joke here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random_N00b Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Well, thank you everyone for the comments. Hopefully, this isn't as bad as I think it is, or could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hfam Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 (edited) A win?? Isn't as bad....?? DPI can be as gnarly as it sounds, especially without any standard or boundaries as to what that encompasses and where it can be used. It is used most often to analyze packets at the edge of your network/point of ingress/egress, determine good or bad, and route or block accordingly However, with the right technology and motivation applied, it can be used for other more nefarious purposes, especially by governments or entities under government regulation and control who apply that technology on the backbone. This means that some unelected group of whoevers could potentially have the authority to look at whatever they want in packets AND do with whatever....for instance, gleaning signing keys. This means that they can grab encryption keys and start looking at even encrypted comms, decrypting at will and looking at content, reconstructing sessions, etc, etc, etc. This is definitely not a win. Couple this with the Bluffdale Utah data center the FedGov/NSA is building with OUR TAX DOLLARS...5 ZETABYTES of storage, and they're copying data on EVERYONE, INCLUDING US citizens....just storing it all away....AND...the FBI has full access to it. NOW. Google up: NSA whistleblower giant data center The ITU can go f**k itself with the Bluffdale Data Center. Shit just got serious if this goes anywhere...and it will. Carnivore, anyone? Eschelon, anyone? Those were the commodore 64s of what's to come...and I don't mean "kitchy and cool". Some food for thought: http://www.guardian....tutional-rights http://www.ijreview....-all-americans/ Do some research and watch this crap unfold...it's definitely not a win, and definitely not good. Edited December 6, 2012 by hfam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwnd2Pwnr Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Wow... not really a surprise, though. There is a ton of data centers across the US and the globe. Are these going to make us "safe"? Probably not. Will it ruin some people; most definitely. Will it end our world? That is still up in the air... What is the need for such centers? Hmmmm.... bet ya the Patriot act has similar decrees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random_N00b Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 https://www.youtube....h?v=35TbGjt-weA that is all I have to say about that. Yeah, that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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