Neworld Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 What is the best way to setup a long range pineapple? I've been noticing that my home router far out powers my pineapple even with a smaller antenna. I'm under the impression that I need to buy a wifi booster to increase the range. http://www.amazon.com/Alfa-designed-increase-performance-Bluetooth/dp/B002BFOCO2/ref=sr_1_66?ie=UTF8&qid=1346637217&sr=8-66&keywords=wifi+booster Any ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsm0ld Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) I currently use a 1 watt from L-Com with the pineapple : http://www.l-com.com...ry.aspx?id=2021 In my day job I have used these in a 24/7 environment in the Arizona heat / sun and they are rock solid. That all said they are expensive.... Edited September 3, 2012 by itsm0ld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neworld Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 I currently use a 1 watt from L-Com with the pineapple : http://www.l-com.com...ry.aspx?id=2021 In my day job I have used these in a 24/7 environment in the Arizona heat / sun and they are rock solid. That all said they are expensive.... Which one specifically do you use? And which one specifically do you recommend I use for the pineapple? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsm0ld Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I personally use this one: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20071 For my job I used the one below to shoot 2.4GHz over 30 miles, we had line of sight and high gain antennas but we had to worry about curvature of the earth... http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=22139 Again I know they are quality products but they are expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01000010 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 HyperAmp® HA2401GI-1000 amplifiers are compatible with 802.11b wireless LAN equipment. Does that mean it downgrades the speed from wireless-N down to wireless-B 11mb max? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neworld Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) I personally use this one: http://www.l-com.com...m.aspx?id=20071 For my job I used the one below to shoot 2.4GHz over 30 miles, we had line of sight and high gain antennas but we had to worry about curvature of the earth... http://www.l-com.com...m.aspx?id=22139 Again I know they are quality products but they are expensive. I don't want to destroy myself lol...... I'm looking for about 100-200feet (whatever a regular router distance is) I'm trying to do this on campus but the pineapple doesn't reach far enough. (P.S.... 30 miles, how do you get responses from the client that far? You can broadcast 30 miles but you can't receive 30 miles.) Edited September 3, 2012 by Neworld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsm0ld Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 HyperAmp® HA2401GI-1000 amplifiers are compatible with 802.11b wireless LAN equipment. Does that mean it downgrades the speed from wireless-N down to wireless-B 11mb max? Sorry no I have the b/g one: http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=20074 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsm0ld Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I don't want to destroy myself lol...... I'm looking for about 100-200feet (whatever a regular router distance is) I'm trying to do this on campus but the pineapple doesn't reach far enough. (P.S.... 30 miles, how do you get responses from the client that far? You can broadcast 30 miles but you can't receive 30 miles.) The 30 miles was a point to point bridge over 2.4GHz, not a pineapple =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neworld Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 The 30 miles was a point to point bridge over 2.4GHz, not a pineapple =) Do you know of anything smaller? Maybe 100-200 feet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Whoa, one of those said 3 watts is this legal in the us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neworld Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Whoa, one of those said 3 watts is this legal in the us? If you want to destroy yourself lol. Can't imagine carrying that around in a backpack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsm0ld Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Some perspective, the Alfa AWUS036H claims 1 watt, so if that range is good enough then get the 1 watt model. Anything lower than that and to me its not worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsm0ld Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Whoa, one of those said 3 watts is this legal in the us? When we purchased this for our 30+ mile install we had to jump through a lot of hoops to get it, however I have seen them available on ebay. Again these are 100% duty cycle amps not the cheap small ones you find on ebay. Again this may not be right for the application, all I can say is that in my application I have it connected to my router in my house paired with a 5DB antenna and it covers all the houses in my culdesac ++. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) Apparently it is legal as you can transmit up to 1 watt and use a higher gain antenna to go up to 4 watts but after that, you have to turn down the TX power. http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/tutorials/article.php/1428941 Edited September 3, 2012 by cscash241 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loozr Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I'm just wondering if another antenna could possibly increase the range? Like this humongus antena from DX.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RChadwick Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Before going down this "1 Watt Amplifier" road, are you sure the problem isn't your Pineapple? I suspect you might find a solution with a search here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsm0ld Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 (edited) If you look at the radiation pattern of high gain antennas you will see they are like a pancake not a donut. From experience I can tell you that for the best coverage higher power and a lower db antenna is the way to go. I really like the 5db antenna that comes with the pineapple, if you want to go with a bigger one (9db+) try and keep it at the height the connecting devices will be at or its less useful. http://4.bp.blogspot...attern copy.jpg The higher the db gain the thinner the vertical lobes get, making dead spots above and below the pancake shaped vertical lobes. Edited September 3, 2012 by itsm0ld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neworld Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 I still don't know what to get.... Before going down this "1 Watt Amplifier" road, are you sure the problem isn't your Pineapple? I suspect you might find a solution with a search here. My sma-pigtail's fine by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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