i.am.stack Posted June 18, 2010 Share Posted June 18, 2010 Just watched 7x18 and since I don't see that created yet under the episodes forum (and I don't want to create it) I figured I would try posting to 'Everything Else' instead. Darren built up a Smoothwall installation and touched on the main reason why I left Smoothwall well over two years ago. Backup and Restore. Funny enough, *also* mentioned in the episode. Smoothwall uses _FLOPPY_ disks to backup and restore from. Sure Smoothwall lets you download a floppy image, but last I checked it won't restore from that image. Maybe I missed it but I didn't see a floppy connection on Darren's really cool Atom based system. Hope Darren spent another 20$-30$ on a USB floppy drive and a couple of disks. I also hope it isn't like some of the newer systems I have seen that don't have a USB floppy disk boot option.... I had Smoothwall up and running on my home connection for some time. Normally if I lose internet for a while, oh well. So what if I can't surf /. for a few hours. Whatever. However, this time I had something important going on (naturally). I was several weeks into trying to help get a friends business off the ground by hosting his website and doing the admin for it. The box was DMZ'd and I had a decently complex configuration for the network. I just needed to last the week. Except, Murphy doesn't like anyone. Power outage. Everything came back up except Smoothwall. After a couple of hours switching out parts I came to the conclusion that the box was just gone. No biggie, I always downloaded the floppy images when I made a change and I have got good backups. I grabbed a spare box and started the restore when it struck me...where the hell do I find a floppy disk?? The last computer I bought with a floppy drive in it had been tossed out long ago. I managed to dig up a few floppy disks that were forever old, but no floppy drive. None of the stores (compusa, walmart, best buy, circuit city, ect) had floppy drives. So there went 60$ overnighting a floppy drive from Newegg. Then I found that all these floppy disks I had kept since the 90's in the back of my closet had all gone bad and all threw write errors when writing the image to the floppy (probably because they baked in the summer and froze in the winter along with years of abuse and neglect). Want to guess how many stores carry floppy disks now?? So I built another firewall box and customized it for the pressing needs (with _only_ three days downtime finding replacement parts ) and I went a week without internet till he got his funding and could afford to buy hosting that wasn't on a home connection. I swore I wasn't going to deal with technologies that I can't restore to regardless of how well it backs up. I really liked Smoothwall and I have not found a good replacement. The best I have found for my needs is Untangle, but it chops resources like mad. However, I am not even going to try a Smoothwall VM until I _know_ I don't need floppies anymore. As much as backups are talked about on the show, I am sure Darren will do a backup of his Smoothwall settings. The question is, how is he planning on restoring should that jerk Murphy come knocking at his door?? Does anyone know if Smoothwall has changed in the last 2 years? It would thrill me quite a bit to find Smoothwall no longer requires a floppy, but I have not seen nor heard of another option without getting the paid for support (which I don't need as a home user). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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