Banana Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Hello everyone! Recently picked up a pineapple to support Hak5. I went with the "pro" package which consisted of a pineapple and the Hak5+Alfa NHA. The main reason I wanted to pick up the pro package besides kicking a few bucks to a local bay area business,was because of my main "Hack-book" had a default broadcam NIC (Network Interface Card) which didn't agree with open source linux kernels and images such as backtrack. The broadcam card is still able to receive wireless but just isn't able to go into monitor mode or act as I want it to. $425 EeePc netbook bootin Windows 7 / Kubuntu,Ubuntu / Backtrack Doesn't handle video well, but carries dual core and upgradeable Ram from the standard 2gig to 4gig (Plenty for 32bit systems) Also the reason I purchased the pineapple is mainly to support hak5, most of the open source firmware available for routers now-a-days such as OpenWRT, Tomator, DD-wrt all act in the same way as the pineapple (Linux). I've got an old lynksis with DD-wrt on it for pen-testing and I'm actually able to send and receive much further than the pineapple can.(Read in the forums it might be a loose internal antenna wire, have yet to open mine up to see if I'm a victim as well) Now on to the juicy stuff, after lurking the forums I've noticed most of the people buying pineapples are just getting into the hacking scene. I've got some background with FPV that I know most beginners will find useful. I pulled this video for anybody who has trouble understanding antenna's and radio: It's extremely informative, and also applies to FPV (Flying rc planes via first person). With this said, I'm still in the testing fazes as well as how to get more range from this thing without having to buy an amplifier. I was potentially thinking of using the famous "IB-crazy" antenna setup. http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1377791 I also saw you guys just recently had the idea of strapping the pineapple to a drone. Which is incredibly feasible, as quadrocopter setups can usually lift around their own weight, Depending on setup (Motors, Amps Supplying, Prop-Size). But here's a link which I found back in March of this year, as I was doing research on my own system using quadrocopter's: http://www.cs.stevens.edu/~spock/skynet/ If your drone can lift the pineapple as well as a battery pack for it then you have Sky-Driving ;) Anybody willing to weigh out there pineapple and battery setup for me? :) Could possibly remove casing, as well as go for a more lightweight antenna. Most hobby drones only fly for 15-30 minutes, the battery would need to only supply enough power for the flight, as well as an extra 15 minutes for a buffer. Gotta go do some more grep, I'll be back soon to see if anybody has posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velkrosmaak Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Sounds like awesomeness to me! Edited November 9, 2012 by velkrosmaak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 Sounds like awesomeness to me! Yea, I'm hoping to pick up a ubertooth soon to complete the spectrum. Just saw the hak5 episode with the open source usrp, can't wait to get my hands on one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hfam Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 MKIV == 82.5g Anker 8400mAH w (1) .5A and (1) 2A output == 295.5g Anker 10000 mAH w (2) USB and an adjustable 9/12A output == 297.5g Retractable CAT5 (hakshop) == 24.5g Antenna == 13g Powered USB hub (hakshop) w/ SanDisk 4g USB drive == 54.5g Alfa AWUS036H == 35g Alfa AWUS036NHA == 39g Hope that helped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Posted November 10, 2012 Author Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) MKIV == 82.5g Anker 8400mAH w (1) .5A and (1) 2A output == 295.5g Anker 10000 mAH w (2) USB and an adjustable 9/12A output == 297.5g Retractable CAT5 (hakshop) == 24.5g Antenna == 13g Powered USB hub (hakshop) w/ SanDisk 4g USB drive == 54.5g Alfa AWUS036H == 35g Alfa AWUS036NHA == 39g Hope that helped! Awesome just what I needed!!! So in the FPV world most amateur sub $700 drones usually fly with a go-pro for hd video. The go-pro hero2 weighs 99 grams without casing, the go-pro hero3 weighs 79 grams. Seeing as 8400 MAH battery is over doing it and we only need the MKIV to be sky-driving for the flight-time we only need around 1200-3600 mah battery. Regular weight of a 1600 mah battery is around 130-150 grams. So combined with the MKIV thats around 230 grams, easily achievable: http://www.hobbyking...re/beerlift.asp Quadrocopters lifting 23,200 grams. The median seems to be around 2500-5000 grams of payload lift. It's absolutely possible. :) Once I get my MKIV autonomous then ill go about powering it with an rc battery. I have a fast charger so I'm able to charge up one battery while flying with the other. The only thing that will work against me is the motor temperature. Still exploring the wonderful world of pen-testing, and I have a lot to read and reread. Also FPV usually can fly in 400mhz , 2.4ghz, 5.8ghz. The best work around would be to control the flight via 400mhz and use FPV on 5.8ghz while having 2.4 to sweep and sniff. Edited November 10, 2012 by Banana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachai Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 thank for sharing...I like the FPV video explaing how they work. I wish I was able to boost the yagi antena i bought from hak5 to work better around trees or around houses.. I do get some ap but would like to get more at a longer distant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banana Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 No prob. I've just got the tip in as far as running backtrack and the pineapple together. I'm considering purchasing or hacking apart a usb for the pineapple to have the USB storage and the Alfa NHA adapter as well. Just need to ensure I'm supplying everything with enough power (Still have to look over the forum for the electric usb). I've been dedicating most of my weekend to reading "The Debian Administrators Handbook". I'll see if I can gather the resources this week to ensure the pineapple runs autonomously and then go about mounting to one of my drones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackrabt Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Pretty awesome idea right here, Sky-Driving. Eager to see how this pans out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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