Sidepocket Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 If you own a business, this concerns you. Whether you own it as a sole proprietorship, as a sole shareholder, or even as a partial shareholder of a corporation, you stand to lose all of it if the Secretary thinks you may commit an "act of violence" that may disrupt the war (or peace) effort in Iraq. Naturally, "act of violence" is not defined anywhere in this order. Once this becomes law, he has all the tools Hitler and Stalin had to keep their respective populations in utter subjection to their will. The executive order states in Section 1(a) that “all property and interests in property” of “any person determined by the Secretary of the Treasury, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Defense, to have committed, or to pose a significant risk of committing, an act or acts of violence that have the purpose or effect of - blah, blah, blah (followed by a laundry list of “purposes or effects”). This means that the triggering factor underlying any such blocking order is a mere “determination” by the Secretary of the Treasury that you pose a “significant risk” of committing an act of violence in the future that has any of the listed purposes or effects. All the Secretary then has to do is to “consult” with the secretaries of state and defense. There is not even a requirement that these two agree with the Treasury Secretary’s “determination”(!) In other words, if the Secretary of the Treasury says that you “pose a significant risk” of committing an act of violence with the purpose or effect of “threatening the peace or stability of Iraq or the Government of Iraq; or undermining efforts to promote economic reconstruction and political reform in Iraq or to provide humanitarian assistance to the Iraqi people”, then the 'bushprez' can block you from accessing your bank account, retirement account, credit cards, or “any property or interest in property” that you may own. That technically includes your house, whether owned or rented, your car or other means of transportation, whether owned or rented, your business, all the way down to your cell phone, toothpaste and underwear, as well as the twenty bucks you loaned your buddy that he hasn’t paid you back yet. What is there to keep the Secretary of the Treasury from “determining” that you, because you oppose the war in Iraq, are probably one of those extremist hooligans who protested the WTO in Seattle a few years back, or that you are likely to act like one of them even though you haven’t even participated in those riots? War protesters do these things, don’t they? They are all the same, aren’t they? If the Secretary “determines” that you probably are one of them and that you “pose a significant risk of committing” an act of violence intended to frustrate the war (or even the peace effort) in Iraq, all of your stuff can be taken away from you - or you can be “blocked” from accessing it, which pretty much amounts to the same thing. You have no legal recourse under this order. No remedy at law. The order does not provide for compensation to you for the taking of your property. There is no due process requirement that will guarantee you a fair hearing in a court of law. Unconstitutional? You bet! http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20070717-3.html http://www.ron-paul-business-directory.com...to-tyranny.html To do something about it, contact your senators: http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt Man it seems that we are trying to send Bush to hell and he is taking us with him. >:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 Fuck it, its an american problem. You need to start doing something more than rasing awareness or keep quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted July 21, 2007 Share Posted July 21, 2007 So lets say you hold a rally and someone(most likey planted by the gov't) gets roudy and starts a fight. Violence ensues and you all get arrested. It was your intent to rally to bring toops home, etc, but instead you get arrested and then this law goes and takes everything away from you that you own. Did I get that right? Its nto just a U.S. problem anymore. Bush has taken it to a new level and if he continues he will be the one to lead us into the next world war, with him being the new Hitler. The only difference between Hitler and Bush is that Bush has yet to thrwo us in a gas chamber. If he is going to take everythign else away from us, what else is there left for him to do to us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337n00b Posted August 17, 2007 Share Posted August 17, 2007 Well, thank God that Bush's term is over in 1 1/2 years. He's probably going to spend as much of his time taking control of the world and our lives, creating more scandals, controversy and doing more fuck ups. We are in for a long 1 1/2 years people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Longer than that, the replacement candidates are all just as bad if not worse. I don't see any hope for a change of direction in America to be honest. When was the last time a politician repealed a law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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