loftrat Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 Me Again :D Ok, I've got a serial cable made up - USB to some header connectors which are currently plugged into th Ground, RX, and TX, pins on the Fon + mainboard. Putty (in Windows) doesn't seem to want to play. This seems to be because Windows doesn't want anything to do with the Fon when I plug it it - it just complains that the USB device has failed/errored and keeps doing that over and over and over. Linux doesn't seem to recognise it either -it proudly tells me (via dmesg) that it's found a new device (using uhci-hcd and address 97), then tells me that it's 'failed to enumerate USB device on port 1'. If I run dmesg again I get the same message, only it's now 98, then 99, then 100, etc. I've checked and double checked the pin connections on the cable, and they're fine. I've tried the RX cable on the TX pin and vice versa. Anybody got any thoughts on where I can go from here? Thanks :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loftrat Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 Never mind, I think I figured it out :( Back to the drawing board (and possibly to the shop for a new Fon :( ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunky Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 you can't just use any old usb cable it's got to be a usb to serial cable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loftrat Posted December 20, 2008 Author Share Posted December 20, 2008 you can't just use any old usb cable it's got to be a usb to serial cable Yep, me, my soldering iron, and a couple of hours swearing, figured that out earlier :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 What did you do? Try to build it from a normal cable rather than a usb-serial one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DingleBerries Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 please say no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loftrat Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 Who me? B) :D In my own defence, I know bugger all about hardware (I mean, seriously, I just don't do hardware at all) so it's only by the good grace of the TechnoGods that I didn't just try to wire the thing directly to my printer or something :D Now there's an idea..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walts Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 What did you do? Try to build it from a normal cable rather than a usb-serial one? Maybe you can save me some grief. What do you mean by a usb-serial cable? I saw in the example where you were using a camera cable with a phone plug on the (unused) end, but don't the wires connect directly to the usb type A plug on the other end? What I've done so far (following the thread in the forum) I took a standard USB cable with a type A plug on one end and a mini-B on the other, and clipped off the mini-B connector. What I now have is the red wire connected to the "A" plug pin 1 (Vcc) the white to pin 2 (Data -) green to pin 3 (Data+) and black to pin 4 (Gnd). I checked that with a meter and with the usb standard. I was getting ready to connect the Data+ to Pin 2 on the Fon (Rx, yellow in the example) and Data- to pin 3 (Tx, red in the example) and Gnd to pin 5. If that doesn't work I was planning to reverse the Data+ and Data- Next on the XP end of things, is there anything I need to do to set up the connection? Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted December 23, 2008 Share Posted December 23, 2008 STOP!!!!! You can't use a normal USB cable, you need a special cable, hence the Kyocera one. The cable you are building isn't a usb cable, it is a usb to serial cable which needs the voltages modifying. The special cable does all this for you. I'll update my site so that this is clearer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loftrat Posted December 23, 2008 Author Share Posted December 23, 2008 Nice one :) That's where I went wrong, it wasn't until I found about my 4th/5th guide to making these types of cables that I realised why nothing seemed to be working ;) I've now ordered one of the Nokia CA-42 cables which are also supposed to work, hopefully I'll have more luck with that :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walts Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Thanks! I was unaware that there were different cables, other than the terminals on the ends. (my camera uses a "regular" USB cable!) I'll head out to get a Kyocera cable after the holidays. Walt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoDg3 Posted January 12, 2009 Share Posted January 12, 2009 Found this whilst googlewacking Fon Cable Pin Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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