demonjester Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I am using hak5 usb hub, and when I try to use any infusions it redirects me back to the main page but its all white and out of place. I want to use a secondary wifi card, but I cant even use it. I tried to ssh in and bring it up with ifconfig but even then I get session timed out. i just upgraded to 2.8.1 I even had the same trouble in 2.8.0. Any suggestions? Different usb hub? settings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpoeticg Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 That black and white gui page usually comes up when u open up an infusion that shows in the UI but the Pineapple can't find the actual infusion. It sounds like maybe u don't have your usb hub configured correctly. And the ssh issue sounds like u don't have your ip forwarding setup correctly. There's alot of usb hubs that work. I've read that the hakshop one works. I've also read some instances of it backfeeding power to the Pineapple through the usb port. I think a small modification fixes that though. if you do a search on the forums you should find it pretty quickly. I use a Dynex hub. I've read alot of posts from people using Belkin, D-Link, Anker, RocketFish, and others. The thing about using a "Powered" hub so u can use usb storage + alfa card is u have to power it. The Dynex one i bought came with an ac adapter that I plug in when i use it. If i don't plug it in i can use 1 or the other usb device on it, but if i plug both in it'll start giving major problems. Hope this helps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonjester Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 That black and white gui page usually comes up when u open up an infusion that shows in the UI but the Pineapple can't find the actual infusion. It sounds like maybe u don't have your usb hub configured correctly. And the ssh issue sounds like u don't have your ip forwarding setup correctly. There's alot of usb hubs that work. I've read that the hakshop one works. I've also read some instances of it backfeeding power to the Pineapple through the usb port. I think a small modification fixes that though. if you do a search on the forums you should find it pretty quickly. I use a Dynex hub. I've read alot of posts from people using Belkin, D-Link, Anker, RocketFish, and others. The thing about using a "Powered" hub so u can use usb storage + alfa card is u have to power it. The Dynex one i bought came with an ac adapter that I plug in when i use it. If i don't plug it in i can use 1 or the other usb device on it, but if i plug both in it'll start giving major problems. Hope this helps... I did the modification for the hak5 hub so it doesn't backfeed power to the pineapple. Its late I will check tomorrow to see if I did ip forwarding incorrectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpoeticg Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I only know what I've read about the hakshop hub but the one I have came off the rack from BestBuy less than a month ago and i couldn't be happier with it . It's a Dynex USB 2.0 4-Port Powered hub. Model NO: DX-HB4PT. The black and white page definitely seems like a power issue with your usb drive. I'm still fairly new to the Pineapple but the 5 or 6 times I've seen that page has been because I accidentally unplugged my USB hub without realizing it and it wasn't getting enough power for my Alfa and Sandisk. Are you just using the black usb port into your Pineapple or are you also plugging the red port into a power source. I'm not sure which way is right cuz i don't have one but every other hub i've read about has to plugged into a power source and your symptoms sound exactly like a usb hub that's not getting power. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonjester Posted May 14, 2013 Author Share Posted May 14, 2013 I only know what I've read about the hakshop hub but the one I have came off the rack from BestBuy less than a month ago and i couldn't be happier with it . It's a Dynex USB 2.0 4-Port Powered hub. Model NO: DX-HB4PT. The black and white page definitely seems like a power issue with your usb drive. I'm still fairly new to the Pineapple but the 5 or 6 times I've seen that page has been because I accidentally unplugged my USB hub without realizing it and it wasn't getting enough power for my Alfa and Sandisk. Are you just using the black usb port into your Pineapple or are you also plugging the red port into a power source. I'm not sure which way is right cuz i don't have one but every other hub i've read about has to plugged into a power source and your symptoms sound exactly like a usb hub that's not getting power. Good Luck! I plug in the red usb into a power source. I have tried different battery, and i also tried it with a usb to ac adapter too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpoeticg Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 The only advice i have for you at this point is to make sure the Pineapple is plugged into the Power Adapter it came with. Remove the hub and plug in just the usb drive to see if that works Remove the usb drive and plug in just the alfa to see if that works If all that works then you know it's a hub problem If it doesn't work you have a deeper issue If it's the hub, either you now know what the specific problem is and you need to research more about that exact hub or you can just run to BestBuy, RadioShack, or whatever place is near you and $10-$20 later life will be good again. I'm pretty sure around 5v 1-2Amp is optimal. And make sure you get one with an ac adapter this time. Mine is 5v 2.1Amp. I have the Dynex 4-Port Hub. It's like a little rectangle with rounded off edges with 1 port on top and 3 on front. A mini usb input and dc jack on back. Should be at whatever BestBuy is near u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonjester Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 The only advice i have for you at this point is to make sure the Pineapple is plugged into the Power Adapter it came with. Remove the hub and plug in just the usb drive to see if that works Remove the usb drive and plug in just the alfa to see if that works If all that works then you know it's a hub problem If it doesn't work you have a deeper issue If it's the hub, either you now know what the specific problem is and you need to research more about that exact hub or you can just run to BestBuy, RadioShack, or whatever place is near you and $10-$20 later life will be good again. I'm pretty sure around 5v 1-2Amp is optimal. And make sure you get one with an ac adapter this time. Mine is 5v 2.1Amp. I have the Dynex 4-Port Hub. It's like a little rectangle with rounded off edges with 1 port on top and 3 on front. A mini usb input and dc jack on back. Should be at whatever BestBuy is near u. I used a different usb to ac wall plug, and it seemed to work, I think my reaver/wash did not get installed correctly when I switched over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonjester Posted May 15, 2013 Author Share Posted May 15, 2013 I think it had something to do with the wifi card, im using rtl8187 chipset. Has the pineapple always have trouble using RTL8187 chipset wifi card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpoeticg Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 I really don't know. I've only had my Pineapple for like a month or a month and a half. If you were having power issue's with your hub when you installed everything to your usb it could've definitely caused things to install incorrectly. I've only used Atheros with my Pineapple. Now that you have you're problem sorted out it definitely couldn't hurt to just do a factory reset/ fresh flash. I have my mk4-setup-script.sh configured to set my entire Pineapple up from start to finish. Now that Whistle Master wrote the phials script, 1 more line at the end of my setup script gets all infusions installed as well. You never know what else tried to install to ur missing usb drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonjester Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 I really don't know. I've only had my Pineapple for like a month or a month and a half. If you were having power issue's with your hub when you installed everything to your usb it could've definitely caused things to install incorrectly. I've only used Atheros with my Pineapple. Now that you have you're problem sorted out it definitely couldn't hurt to just do a factory reset/ fresh flash. I have my mk4-setup-script.sh configured to set my entire Pineapple up from start to finish. Now that Whistle Master wrote the phials script, 1 more line at the end of my setup script gets all infusions installed as well. You never know what else tried to install to ur missing usb drive. I removed my usb drive and plugged the card straight in. Same results. I am going to pick up alfa nha and see if that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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