Jump to content

itsgus

Active Members
 View Profile  See their activity

  • Posts

    21

  • Joined

  • Last visited

 Content Type 

Posts posted by itsgus

    Pandora Hack

    in Questions

    Posted

    Hey Cooper, aren't you going to critique my code too? or is it just that bad :P

    You're not gonna like the "while (true)" ahhaa.

    But like I said ,this was just a weekend project to see if i could do it. and hey it works pretty damn well.

    3tunes - Pandora Timeshifting

    in Questions

    Posted

    Dont know if anyone knows about it but I find This solution ALOT more user friendly than pandora. Using Winamp you can listen to ShoutCast radio stations and using a plugin can rip the music as you listen and store it to the drive you specify.

    All it requires is:

    http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/

    and http://www.winamp.com

    the difference is that Pandora is already storing the files as separate MP3s, so as a programmer its easier to copy those MP3s than to encode them from a stream and try to detect when one song ends and the next begins

    Plus, Pandora radio stations can be more customizable than shoutcast radio, and/or some poeple might just prefer pandora over shoutcast. i know when a crappy song stats playing in pandora, i enjoy being able to skip it. i also enjoy the fact that when i starting listening to pandora, it is not in the middle of a song.

    however, its good to have both options available. the piece of software you mentioned is also pretty slick.

    as far as user friendlyness, its not that much more user friendly.. some of these pandora rippers are pretty easy to use.. this winamp plugin does require you to know how to use winamp, find a shoutcast that you like, install the plugin, and start using it.. with pandora you just type an artist you like, and launch one of the pandora ripping programs

    3tunes - Pandora Timeshifting

    in Questions

    Posted

    You do infact INTEND to point out, on multiple occasions that YOURS is the original Pandora "hack".

    thats right, it is. although its more of an exploit. refer to episode 8

    And I take offense to you claiming that my program does not actually work, where in fact, it does actually work for me, thats all that counts right? I coded it for me and my friends, so aslong as it works for me and them, who really cares if it doesn't work for others?

    i never said your software doesn't work. i said mine does.

    yes if you intended it for only your friends, thats the only people it needs to work for. but you obviously want more people to use it, judging by your website and digg post.. so its kind of a bad approach to take saying who cares if it doesn't work... thats actaully the entire point of the digg post, website, and software isnt it? to work?

    when i said mine works, i meant it doesn't break or mess up where yours does... for example, nothing showed up in my c: drive and i know other people on this forum had the same issue.. and pausing and skipping messes things up too :(

    If my memory servers me correctly, you joined the Hak.5 forums on the 11th.. which is today, and then you only post about your Pandora "hack". This being 3 threes after my program made frontpage of Digg.com and there after on LifeHacker and Download Squad. Now, would you have signed up to the Hak.5 forums for any other reasons other than to suggest people use your program over mine? Your "revamped" program didn't really show up till after my program came into the light.

    3 threes? i dont know what that means, but i joined the forum because i saw that people were talking about my software, and i wanted to clear up the confusion and give people the working version..

    if you want the story of my program here it is: i wrote my program for a few friends just like you did, almost a year ago. then i commented on a really old digg story:

    >http://digg.com/music/Pandora_streaming_radio_(dugg_earlier)_caches_to_your_TEMP_folder_< and i sent it to Hak5.. if you go and watch episode 8, they demo my app... since then i've been getting about 3 emails aweek requesting my app, and i've been sending it out to people. unfortunately, old versions of my app ended up getting stuck being hosted.. and infact i've been sending out updates to people on my mailing list.. so actually my program has been out for a while, just not in the spotlight. i prefer that a program such at this is kept quiet, because putting it in the spotlight like this is the reason that companies are forced to put restrictive DRM on their music... :( .

    i think your program showed after my program broke and some people on this forum were confused because they didn't get the update that i sent out to everyone on my mailing list. .. which is why i joined this forum to clear up the confusion..

    Also I didn't really "try" did I? I think it's more of the case of "did" create another program to take advantage of Pandora and Firefox. You claim you don't want to start a forum "battle", which actually suggests that you think your post will actually make me retaliate into a flame war. Also telling me to "get your program working before making a UI" is a bit rude, telling me how to code my own programs? I'm pretty sure I code my programs how I like? "take a look at my source code if you want some ideas" is a little patronising don't you think? I'm sure I can come up with my own ideas in my own time. I'm one to code my own code, and not think "Ah this code looks good I'll use this".

    you're right its a bit rude and i appologize for that.. thats why i said i DIDN'T want to start a battle..

    what i mean by "try" is that some features are still missing or broken, meaning you haven't actually finished it yet im guessing. you've clearly spent a lot of time making a pretty website, which i already told you looks really nice , so congratz on that.. i just value functional software over pretty websites.

    no, offering my code its not patronising.. its how open source projects work. people share ideas and critique eachother. constructional critisizm is a good thing. i know you don't like the open source idea but you could at least have a friend look at your code, it will help you as a programmer.

    i look forward to the next releases where you fix some of the issues you are planning.

    Oh and good luck with your applications, it requires .NET framework & Java Runtime Environment am I correct?

    yes it requires JRE. the awsome part of java is that it runs on every operating system. i want to support the mac and linux users too!

    .Net comes pre-installed on most windows machines. infact, you said you were grabbing window handles and using C++. well, because of that, your software requres .NET too

    looking at this forum , i have seen at least two other implementations that do the same kind of time-shifting, and they are both open source offering their code. They've done some really awesome things that i like a lot. each one has its own interesting approach. but, i think its stupid to have 4 different versions going around when we could all share our ideas and have a really nice piece of software here, dont you agree? thats why i have donated my working code to the community.

    i wish i could talk to you in person or in voice because i dont like the way my ideas, concepts, and intentions come through in writing. this is why i avoid forums because fights break out over small things like inferring the wrong thing or taking something the wrong way.

    trust me i mean the best. lets keep this friendly. its NOT a coding battle.

    3tunes - Pandora Timeshifting

    in Questions

    Posted

    here, everyone, here's the original Pandora timeshifting software (Featured in episode 8 ) that TomB tried to copy by making 3Tunes...

    however, it has been improved and revamped.. it actually WORKS, and supports pausing, skipping, etc.. doesn't crash when things go wrong, actually WORKS, no annoying message box to find the title bar (its automated), and does ID3 tagging.

    see for yourself. source included. enjoy!

    the ORIGINAL:

    http://files.filefront.com/PandoraSploit_1...;/fileinfo.html

    P.S. TomB, i do NOT intend on starting a forum battle.. infact i really like what you've done with your site. it looks nice and slick, smooth, pretty, professional.. infact so does the concept of your next release. but you should focus more on your actual program.. get your program working better before you make the GUI and website pretty. take a look at my source if you want some ideas.

    remember, form follows function.

    3tunes - Pandora Timeshifting

    in Questions

    Posted

    I also took down the site until I can find out whether or not they can sue me.

    If you think about it your not hacking pandora in any way. All your program does is basicly capture text from Firefox's title bar and rename files that are on your computer.

    You would think that if a file is located on your computer you would have the right to do what ever you wanted to do with said file.

    But i'm sure there was a EULA somewhere with very small text that when we accepted we forfeited all our rights and are liable and all that BS.

    Just my opinion....

    you should read Pandora's Terms of Service... they mention that is infact a violtion.. look it over

    Pandora Hack

    in Questions

    Posted

    very interesting approach to create a server and connect to localhost.. then use javascript to get the title and artist... very interseting indeed.. and it WORKS nicely, too. i like it a lot.

    very cool... now it just needs to attach album art to the mp3 :)

    only complaint: i dont like how it puts the music into subfolders by artist and album..that is only useful when you actually have entire albums.. but with pandora, you'll rarely get more than a couple songs from the same artist and same album unless you run it for a very long time.

    Pandora Hack

    in Questions

    Posted

    Hi everyone. I am the creator of the pandora java app you have all been using. It came to my knowledge shortly after it "broke" that pandora changed the way they display the artist and title information.

    This lead to my app not working, as many of you experienced. However do not fret, i have created an updated version.... infact, the version you have all been using is rather quite BETA....

    The new version is 1.1... it also does ID3 tagging.

    Unfortunately it is not hosted anywhere. If someone is able to host it, let me know..

×
×
  • Create New...