ki2k
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Wondering if I missed something on the swap topic- is there yet a prescribed way to set it up? For that matter- is there a prescribed format method for SD card on Nano? I found my Mark V to be pretty fickle on the SD format methodology, and not being a big tinkerer yet would prefer to do it "as recommended" over trial and error.
Thanks!
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Mark V will also be featured at the upcoming Wireless LAN Professionals Conference on Feb 3 in Dallas http://www.wlanprosconference.com/sessions/hands-on-with-hak5s-pineapple/
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http://wirednot.wordpress.com/2014/12/09/the-wirednot-year-ending-drone-blog/
Last one from me for the year- drone oriented
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Came across this http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-make-a-wifi-network-that-only-transmits-cat-pictures-with-a-raspberry-pi/ while playing with Raspberry Pi, seems like could be interesting alternative to to random roll. Though cats are mentioned here, theme could be anything. Wonder if anyone has considered/tried this on Pineapple?
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Sounds like the classic case of a nice web front end making the company seem bigger than they are. I can only say that my own dealings with Hak 5 for purchasing and purchasing support have been excellent. I can be a bit short myself when I feel that a company isn't living up to their end, but to call Hak 5 crap is to not know Hak 5. There are some in the forums that approach hero worship when it comes to the people behind Hack 5, but strip that silliness away and they really are attentive, responsive, and their word is good. I'd be patient and dial down the rant if you're new to the group and give them a chance before ripping into them.
Meant constructively.
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The message is really, really inconsistent on this, Seb. As inconsistent as the card behavior....
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I saw what you're talking about before, too. It's maddening- I have a dozen devices from digital cameras to Android tablets to Raspberry Pi, and all of them combined are not as screwy as the Mark V is for the SD card thing. It seems like certain actions hose the card badly, but haven't nailed it down yet.
Also the format utility on the Pineapple bothers me- it works, it doesn't work. It's "experimental", it's reliable- all depends on what thread you read in the forums.
Grrrr.
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Just updated Pineapple to latest 2.0.4.
SD card was fine before update, came back up not seen. No surprise,as wonky card behavior is a way of life here.
Again starts the dance of formatting on the Pineapple, formatting in Linux, etc. I am a huge fan and supporter of Hak5 and the Pineapple, but this card nonsense is bullshit that everyone dances around, and is one area that really needs to be tightened up.
New cards, fast cards, shiny cards, brand x cards, brand y cards... whatever- it's ridiculously inconsistent and unpredictable.
There, I said it- end of rant.
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Showing the Pineapple some love at my IT Toolbox blog and a while back at my wirednot blog.
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Search the forums, this is a common occurance with no real answer ( in my opinion). I spent hours with two new cards having same symptoms as you despite proper, recommended Linux formatting, formatting on Pineapple, whatever. Put the whole thing away, disgusted and came back to it to one of the 2 cards (both good SanDisk) now being recognized and other not. I don't know the answer, but do know that this is one of the wonkier aspects of the beloved Pineapple.
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The mention of adapters may be a clue. If you have a mismatched impedance between pineapple and whatever the antenna is, you'll get what's called VSWR, usually caused by transmitting into an antenna that is not matched in frequency to the transmitter. Basically, signal is being reflected back to radio instead of going out antenna, and classic system is heat. Are your antennas known to be 2.4/5 GHz and in good repair? If not, you can fry the Pineapple. The forums have a fair amount of users wanting to put all kinds of weird antennas into play, but they must be made for the Pineapple's frequencies or you are really asking for trouble.
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No snark intended, and extracting this question from a recent quandary I had with SD cards. Wondering why the format function under resources is labelled "experimental" as it leaves a lot of questions about trustworthiness. Seems like it should either be functional, or not included for use. I did search forums, not seeing any information on the topic.
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So I don't leave this hanging...
As technically silly as it sounds, my problem simply "went away", on both cards that were problematic. I changed nothing* (was getting ready to drop to 1.4.1) but saw that magically the card is staying put now, through several reboots, using infusions from the card, etc. Same for original card that flagged problem originally.
*- the ONLY, only, only thing that I varied was the Ethernet cable between laptop and Pineapple. Both were factory-made 3' cables, the original was in a color I needed for a specific use elsewhere. Both cable-test fine, and I can't imagine that this could make any difference whatsoever (I've installed literally thousands of network ports over the years, patch cables are either bad or they are not when put against a tester and is easy to find even intermittent wiring faults), but can't get the original one back to test with for a couple of weeks.
Go figure.
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As I mentioned- this is a brands new SanDisk card, and the previous card with like behavior is also not very old, also SanDisk. I'm not saying new cards don't go bad, but statistically it's pretty unlikely that two new (or newish) in a row would fail the exact same way with exact same symptoms. Cards last forever in DSLRs, smartphones, tablets etc and just don't fail nearly as much as the Pineapple forums would have you believing they do:)
Apologies for calling you Pirate- doing too much at the same time!!
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Thanks, Sugurat. Will go that route in the name of completeness when I get the time in next couple of days. Need to figure out where to get the bits as I haven't gone that route yet.
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Pirate- not being snarky, but I'm trying to be detailed if you read the thread. NEW CARD exhibiting same behavior as original good card. Went to 2.0.3... formatting on device or in Linux first no difference. SD card reads sometimes, mostly not. When it does, it's fine for a while.
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Here's the "SD good" picture, using Randomroll as example of infusion on card. Good, for a bit. Then reboot, chances are good SD not seen anymore (second picture), but sometimes it is. If not, lots of remove/install card brings it back. Condition quite repeatable. Formatting card or flashing Pineapple no difference.
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Different power supplies having no bearing on SD flakiness condition. I'm now leaning towards bad SD slot. It basically reads sometimes, other times does not. Removing/re-installing SD card may or may not help. When card doesn't read, any infusions on it are listed as installed, with no size. If you physically manipulate the card repeatedly, it eventually reads for a while then falls off.Again, happening with two cards, both decent Class 10s. I think the upgrade to 2.0.3 was just coincidental to discovering SD slot problem.
I could downgrade as one last "to try", but it's feeling really like a hardware problem after the last testing.
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Thanks. I thought about downgrading, haven't gone that route yet. As I mentioned earlier in thread, the SD wonkiness came about after going to 2.0.3, and two SDs exhibit same behavior. Have formatted the SD both ways- outside of Pineapple using Linux PC, and under resources tab (seems to be conflicting opinions of the reliability of the onboard command in the forums- in my opinion, this is one of those little niggling topics that could use clarification, and if the inboard command is sound perhaps remove the "experimental" descriptor"?)
After onboard formatting and reported success, have rebooted and see no change to swap on either card.
Am using original power supply, will try the PS from my Mark IV in case the one I'm using is unstable.
One more data point- seeing now that when card is no longer acknowledged in resources, any infusion put on the card is "orphaned" under installed infusions. You see it listed as installed, but has no file size.
And... Once this morning, out of desperation, simply inserting removing card repeatedly a few times made it "show up" properly but it promptly went back to problem state after running infusion from card.
For clarity- I'm not suggesting a code issue on 2.0.3 globally, just on this unit (not unheard of, even on pricey enterprise hardware)
Will try different power supply and code downgrade and see where it goes. Again thanks.
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At this point, I''m ready to declare my Mark V a defective unit in regards to SD card operations.
- Mark V reflashed, no worries. Original upgrade to 2.0.3 was also trouble free, as were earlier upgrades. Never had SD card issues before 2.0.3
- perfectly good 2 Gig SD card stopped working after upgrade. Reformatted using gparted Ext 4, will work for one go, power cycle and card is gone again.
- new 32 GB SD class 10 card pretty much same thing, over and over. Card fine until you reboot or run an infusion from it, then gone. Removing, reinserting does nothing, nor does reflash Pineapple. Only formatting SD card (making sure no BS partitions created, etc) brings it back, albeit temporarily
- feels like MBR or whatever equivalent on SD is being corrupted by Pineapple
- fstab file already verified good, and I'm forking with nothing but SD card
Weird. Only thing I have lingering question on- swap file always at zero. See no reference for manual editing or what it should be if different, in forums. should it be something else, and if so, what?
I'm game to any meaningful input, but with as much network equipment that I work on, this truly feels like code bug on this device.
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One more note- on the new class 10 SD card, formatted outside of Pineapple and working well for a day in the Pineapple, if I run an infusion from the SD card the following happens:
- that infusion starts
- SD card no longer seen
- all other infusions that were on the card disappear from UI
- factory reset of Pineapple doesn't "bring back" SD awareness
So then follow it out...
- go reformat card
- put it back in to Pineapple where it is recognized again
- add infusions to SD card successfully
- run one of those infusions
- whole process starts over again- SD card no longer recognized, etc...
For giggles, going to reflash the Pineapple.
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"I don't know how many bad cards are out there, but I don't think we should blame the pineapple for damaging the cards; in most cases, they started out that way."
Not blaming Pineapple per se, just remarking how strange it is that so often reformatting SD or replacing it is recommended and/or declared the fix. In my case, a lightly used and reliable non-"bad to begin with" card became toast after latest upgrade, despite upgrade going fine. Would love to hear any technical theory beyond a bad run of cards as SD issues are rampant in the forums.
Really not trying to quibble, genuinely curious about potential root cause.
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In this case, the 2GB card I was using is toast in all devices- which came about when I went to 2.0.3. Another card works fine. Looking through forums, it just seems weird that the Pineapple appears to be brutal on SD cards as it frequently comes down to needing to reformat/replace. I've never seen another device with so many SD related issues. I love and appreciate the Pineapple and the work behind it, just find the SD thing curious.
Setting up SD card as root to install more pkgs with opkg and use beef
in WiFi Pineapple NANO
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No sooner do I ask, than I find it! USB format under "Advanced" - but swap question still on the table.