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push something back upstream to Ubuntu itself.

now canonical is a maoian secret evil agency trying to fuck shit up in murica

well i'm done with this topic

i'm discussing personal stereotype accusations .

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But neither of those companies are Chinese whom have a history of such. And if they did and were found, there would be no company left.

you talk like you live in china ,it's kylin's community probelm not ubuntu's

i was talking IT , but you are just trying to demonstrate who's the bad guys

regardless of your stereotype political decision ,i won't trust a black box (even if it's from Good Guy Greg ) , that shit makes me feel dumb .

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Aminter,

The main concern is that once the kylin development are trusted, it is very well possible that they submit things upstream. If that happens, it would be possible for something to slip through.. This has happened in other OS projects - trusted developers aren't checked that closely.

same thing can be said about osx and windows , without us having the possibility to follow the source

[Ubuntu and China]

The objective of the UbuntuKylin project is to create a variant of
Ubuntu that is more suitable for Chinese users. We are committed to
provide you with a delicate, thoughtful and fully customized Chinese
user experience out-of-the-box. For instance, by providing a desktop
user interface localized in Chinese and installing common software that
Chinese users commonly use by default. UbuntuKylin is a formal member of
the Ubuntu family, commencing with UbuntuKylin 13.04. ( based on the official release Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail )

-Online Music Search on Dash Simpler and more convenient music search by aggregating data from music websites in China

-Chinese Calendar

-Weather Indicator: The weather forecast information from China meterological administration

-Chinese Input Method

-Cooperation with WPS

-Baidu Map on Dash

-Online Payment Assistant Addin for Chinese Bank

-Realtime Information of Flights and Trains in China

from ubuntu.com

and it clearly said they are going to make a customized version for chinese ubuntu users

like Edubuntu for example to put together a system that contains all the best free
software available in education .

now i'm assuming that users from other place on the galaxy somehow learned chinese and downloaded UbuntuKylin
let's discuss the possibility that their personal data and actions are being observed :

like you all know Open source projects have an international online/offline community
programmers , designers, debuggers

they all contribute in the project and share the source code

now you are discussing the possibility of an obfuscated malicious coding that somehow all the programmers from all the world didn't understand

but at the same time you have total confidence in a balckbox OS (by not mentioning it ) just because you trust the person who sold you its EULA

i'm not discussing persons , i'm talking about ideas .

in ubuntu

apt-get source (package name)

to get the source code of any software

and if there is any suspicious coding , the ubuntu chinese community will know (and i say chinese because the rest of the world won't be using kylin ! )

and they can just apt the source -> edit -> compile / use and share the new version

all of that assuming that their government is full of shit

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The problem with it is if nasty things manage to get pushed back upstream. I'm sure Canonical will claim to have processes in place to prevent this but it can be a very hard thing to do as backdoors can be easy to hide if you have the skills.

oh so you are telling me that you trust a close source blackbox OS but you get paranoid when it comes to an open source free one?

what makes you sure that uncle billy isn't spying on what are you doing , and selling it to the big corporation ? or even worst ?

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that's a HUGE move for ubuntu and free knowledge .

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I keep reading it, and I just can get a hold of myself. All the days that I have invested on mastering Ubuntu thinking that is one of the most relaible open systems, now turns out that indeed it will be "open".

I don't know if chinese hands will be on my system. (no I'm not discriminating, I love chinese people in fact I live with chinese people) but in cybersecurity it's a whole different story.

I guess now we have to start talking about recomendations of different distros we can use, instead of ubuntu.

I would probably recomend Fedora, since it's the distro closest to Red Had Linux, which is used at enterprise level. Since I'm a network system administrator that would actually help me to start getting used to this important system.

Sad, and with no too much to say anymore...

Thank you so much for this information, cause I would have probably continue using ubuntu without relizing that will be managed with chinese IT people.

RIP Ubuntu.

Best Regards

this is a reborn of ubuntu and linux in general

why so sad ?

it's open source anyway , even who downloads the chinese spin can know if there is any extra codes there

GO UBUNTU

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when i first got into this forum

[Ubuntu and China]

as a linux and a ubuntu user
i don't see why this is not fucking great !

+1 billion at least for linux :D

this is huge

ps: well they can do whatever they want with it since it's not included in the official version / it will be like kubuntu and edubuntu (official spin )

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you must C

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downloading :)

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nokia 3310

when someone bothers you
you can 3310 the shit out of him .

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syso "Hello Galaxies";

just googled related topics

and i'm here

i'm amine 20 yo from springfield (matt groening's )

so

linux user (ubuntu right now + BT5 + Fedora )

fifa 13 in the gaming department ; inter fan btw <3

i'm a computer science (networking and programming) student 2nd year

i like C and Shell scripting , java on eclipse

and i love the badass syngress books ,i didn't say e-books.pdf because i'm a good citizen ,i obey the law , i buy that shit


and i love lexi belle and emma watson

daffuq i'm doing , i don't think anyone gives a fuck anyway