basstraks Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 -HELP NEEDED PLEASE- I have 2 Hitachi CM2112MU 1G (Intergraph 21sd107) 21" monitors with 13W3 female ports on them. I found these in the trash, and thought it would be great if I could use these instead of my regular 17" inchers. I could not find much info on them, but through looking in different forums, I came to the conclusion that all I would need to make them work with my PC would be a 13W3 Male to HD15 Male (13W3 to VGA) connector/cable. I found 2 of these cables on Ebay dirt cheap, but of course paid a fortune for shipping, so really did not save that much. Anyway, the cables just with the direct connection does not seem to work. The monitors do work, I know this, but it gives an "Invalid Sync" error on the screen. So evidently just giving this "direct-connection" is not going to cut it. I tried every setting that I could find or think of in the settings of my video card settings, and I have the most up to date driver for the video card. I was told these monitors are actually for Sun/Unix systems, maybe even macs, but at the same time I was told that they would work with a pc, as long as I used the conversion cable, like I did. Now on the web, I have also seen these same cables (13W3 Male to HD15 Male) or (13W3 to VGA) with jumpers on the plugs as well, but I cannot find what they really do, and I can't really find the answers. I am a schooled Electronics Tech/Pc Tech, but this exact thing is new to me, and I don't really understand a whole lot about sync issues with monitors and such. Normally I hook 2 17" monitors and my 36" Television up to my NVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP Video Card, and that all works fine, but again this direct connection to these 2 Hitachi CM2112MU's with the 13W3 Male to HD15 Male cables just wont work. I can actually make out the windows boot up screen flashing on by the screens on boot up, but they just wont fix. On the 13W3 to VGA cable, on the HD15 Male side, I notice that all of the pins are present, where with your normal kind of vga HD15 plug there are a few pins missing. Does anyone out there know if there is any settings within Windows or the NVidia Control Panel that can correct the sync thingy going on here, or would it work if I cut some pins off, or maybe even cut the HD15 plug open and re-wire some of the actual wires in there? I hope some one reading this knows their stuff and knows exactly what I am talking about. These monitors are not only big and sweet, but they were free. It would be great if I could get them to work. And again, they do work. How can I fix this problem? Thanks. -System Specs- Pentium 4/2. 40GHz/512 MB Ram Asus P4B533-E Motherboard NVidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 AGP Video Card Windows XP Professional Custom/Tweaked -Monitor Specs- (as it appears on unit) Hitachi CM2112MU 1G Intergraph 21sd107 MDSP 13900 Manufactured NOV 1996 S/N G6K003340 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Have you looked to see if the monitors require special drivers? Check the manufacturers website for details on setup, maybe they will not work properly without the correct drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basstraks Posted March 29, 2008 Author Share Posted March 29, 2008 Yeah, actually I did consider that, I myself could not find any drivers anywhere for XP, I did see them around on different sites for windows 98 2000 and earlier, but not xp. It seems to me that would actually fix the problem, I had a similar problem in the past with my regualr monitors when I was hooking it up to the television, and after I upgraded the video card driver, it fixed the issue. But again, I have not found any drivers for this monitor for Windows XP. I don't think they exist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Monitors don't use/need/require drivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Monitors don't use/need/require drivers. Um, yeah, they actually do sometimes. Not all monitors are plug and play, and display sizes can be limited without the correct drivers. My HPw1907 uses drivers for the monitor. Without them, the correct aspect ratio can not be set and weird sizes show up under the desktop properties. XP seems to need them, but Vista was able to detect and display it correclty. The sharpness and scan lines change when using the correct drivers for my display. Without them, things were blurry and not displayed properly. http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000437.htm Posted by: basstraks Insert Quote Yeah, actually I did consider that, I myself could not find any drivers anywhere for XP, I did see them around on different sites for windows 98 2000 and earlier, but not xp. It seems to me that would actually fix the problem, I had a similar problem in the past with my regualr monitors when I was hooking it up to the television, and after I upgraded the video card driver, it fixed the issue. But again, I have not found any drivers for this monitor for Windows XP. I don't think they exist. As far as XP, the windows Win2000 drivers should work. Maybe even the Win98 drivers. Give it a shot. I sually dont trust thrird party sites and try to stick with the manufaturers drivers, but you can try this: http://www.monitor-drivers.com/ Not sure if yours will be on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Monitors don't use/need/require drivers. Um, yeah, they actually do sometimes. Not all monitors are plug and play, and display sizes can be limited without the correct drivers. My HPw1907 uses drivers for the monitor. Without them, the correct aspect ratio can not be set and weird sizes show up under the desktop properties. XP seems to need them, but Vista was able to detect and display it correclty. The sharpness and scan lines change when using the correct drivers for my display. Without them, things were blurry and not displayed properly. 'Drivers' for monitors aren't drivers. They contain resolution/sync information. Your monitor is probably funky in some way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 'Drivers' for monitors aren't drivers. They contain resolution/sync information. Your monitor is probably funky in some way. Hmm...Then I guess the 'Drivers' would help then, huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Hmm...Then I guess the 'Drivers' would help then, huh? The manurfacturer specified information might. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 They may also have been thrown out because they can no longer sync..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicatronTg Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 They may also have been thrown out because they can no longer sync..? ...or because there is no 'drivers'..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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