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I am copying files from my old pc to a new one. There are 50gig of files to copy over in just the one folder alone and windows is telling me it is going to take 6 9 and 1/2hours 3hours to copy it. I am using windows File Sharing. Is there a faster way, or protocol to do this between two windows machines?

I was going to do it over http with apche, but the thought of manually downloading each file stopped me right there.

I am thinkling about FTP and if that would be any faster, or does it seem like it is just my network speed that is causing the issue. I have never copied that much data at one time, so I was not sure if this is normal for 50gig or if it was too slow.

I am also wondering if a crossover cable would speed things up vs through the network. I am on a 10/100 switch(still need to upgrade to gigabit, but strapped for cash. New PC was too much as it was.)

Old PC: Pentium 4 2.6ghz, Windows XP SP2

New PC: AMD Quad Core Phenom 2.2ghz, Vista RTM Home Premium

(I am not really liking Vista, and I am going to install XP on a seperate partition as soon as I get all my files over. I want to dual boot, in the event that I want to learn/hack/fuck with vista a little more before getting rid of it)

Update. Looks like windows is picking up speed and the time to copy is reducing now. Maybe VIsta does something before copying it, but looks like its going to be finished in about an hour and half now, down from the 9hour jump it made int he first 10 minutes of copying.

[SomeoneE1se]

file copy is only ever a best guess

and try Vsp1 before givving up on it

I use vista have no problems I didn't already have with xp

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file copy is only ever a best guess

and try Vsp1 before givving up on it

I use vista have no problems I didn't already have with xp

I have alreayd wnet through and gotten rid of all the bloatware that came with it. Turned off 90% of the services I know of and am going to look up the new ones I never seen before before disabling them. Its a lot snappier than when I first booted it and seems stable so far, but its not as fast as XP seems to be. Although I have only been working on it for a few hours an dhavent given it any really hard tests, like video rendering, ripping, burning, watchign movies, etc.

Main reason I got it was my wifes computer is about ready for a recyle as a file server or other device of choice, as its a 300mhz air cooled pentium with 20gig hdd that is maxed out of space, and its slow as hell. Its a nice upgrade for her to get my old pc, and I wanted somethign beefier for video editing, rendering, etc. Plus, the HD tuner seemed to bog down the machine, and I was hoping the newer box will not have as many issues. We'll see, but I ahvent gotten that far yet. Still trying to get back to the same settings and install base as the other box and then I can start really playing with it some more. Then I have to setup the old one for my wife and copy all her stuff over to it. Seems like its all I do in my spare time is move data from machine to machine or fix someone elses when they break.

[SmoothCriminal]

file copy is only ever a best guess

and try Vsp1 before givving up on it

I use vista have no problems I didn't already have with xp

I have alreayd wnet through and gotten rid of all the bloatware that came with it. Turned off 90% of the services I know of and am going to look up the new ones I never seen before before disabling them. Its a lot snappier than when I first booted it and seems stable so far, but its not as fast as XP seems to be. Although I have only been working on it for a few hours an dhavent given it any really hard tests, like video rendering, ripping, burning, watchign movies, etc.

Main reason I got it was my wifes computer is about ready for a recyle as a file server or other device of choice, as its a 300mhz air cooled pentium with 20gig hdd that is maxed out of space, and its slow as hell. Its a nice upgrade for her to get my old pc, and I wanted somethign beefier for video editing, rendering, etc. Plus, the HD tuner seemed to bog down the machine, and I was hoping the newer box will not have as many issues. We'll see, but I ahvent gotten that far yet. Still trying to get back to the same settings and install base as the other box and then I can start really playing with it some more. Then I have to setup the old one for my wife and copy all her stuff over to it. Seems like its all I do in my spare time is move data from machine to machine or fix someone elses when they break.

You can't run Vista with the expectations that it will run even remotely as fast as XP.  It is the same with all upgrading, as the OS gets more features it gets slower.  Just look at the difference from 2000 to XP.  I won't try and judge Vista yet though.  I haven't had enough time to mess with it.  That is on my things to do list (which seems to be growing way to long).

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Well I'd say its anybodies guess at this point. It now jumped up to 19 hours to finish, so not sure what is causing it, maybe the old pc can not handle the request for so much? Neve rhad a problem downlaoding large files on the old box, and even torrents and iso downloads seemed really fast on the old mahcine, so I do nto know if its vistas shoddy estimation of download time or whatever...

[proskater123]

well i just wanted to get my two cents into this. vista sucks.sorry to say it. I thik its vista that is slowing down the file transfer cause it happens to me transfering 5 gb files over my network. but with two xp computers it runs fine. and fast

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well i just wanted to get my two cents into this. vista sucks.sorry to say it. I thik its vista that is slowing down the file transfer cause it happens to me transfering 5 gb files over my network. but with two xp computers it runs fine. and fast

I hear ya. a 4gig file took 1 hour. I moved 14 gigs between my laptop and desktop(both xp) in less than a half hour. Has to be a service or setting in Vista that is slowing this down. I think its the search feature(I already have the indexer turned off, but the search feature is still running. Going to disable it and see if I get any speed boost).

[VaKo]

Unplug the HD, connect to the 2nd machine, copy the file off, remove disk and put it back in the 1st machine. Sneaker nets rule. Other than that, firewire? Spliting the file into chunks and using a usb stick?

[Famicoman]

Yeah, Sneakernet works very well. Firewire is surprisingly faster than I thought after dealing with USB for so long. ~150gb in an hour maybe.

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Well, got everything copied over. Only took me like 12 hours to move about 100gig plus email settings and shit. One thing I hate so far is it wont run half the things I want. Tried installign Nero, said it was incompatible. F Vista, I am goign to put XP on the other drive when I get home and only use vista to learn it when I need to fix other peoples computers, but so far, I am nto inmpressed with it. Its eye candy, but thats about it. 1 thign I did like was it found my HDTV-USB Tuner and I didnt have to install any of th ecrappy Pinnacle software. Media Center added all my channels and listsings for me. It also makes nice HD video renders in 1440 x 1080, so that is nice as well, but I cant burn anything until I upgrade to nero 8. I uninstalled the Cyberlink Go software. I hate their burnign software and downlaoded some free program to make data discs in the mean time, but I still want Nero to make dvds from my edited videos. I also do nto like the new media player 11 or how when I browse pics, it starts playing the vides as well. I just want to scan through the images and open videos seperately when I want to watch them. Not all at once.

I have widdled it down as best I can turnign off all the non essential services.  So far nothing seems to be hindered by what I have turned off and disabled. I want to try SP1 and see if it really makes any difference in overall perfomance. I'd like to see the graphics card match the rest of the vista "experience" ratins too. Everythign gets like a 6 except the graphics card, which gets a 3.4. I guess thats decnet since every pc I have ever looked at with vista never got higher than a 3.6. I wonder what the new ATI Spider card gets on performance ratings under vista.

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Well, Another rant about vista. Tried installing XP over vista. No go. Gets to load from cd on reboot adn then vista cancels it and loads vista. Tried doing from within Vista to install onto another partition, it blocks the icon for setup on the isntall menu and only leaves the options to transfer files, etc.

Found a tutorial for working around Vista and shrinking the drive, isntalling over the shrunk partition, and the fixing the boot loads. In the process now and will report back once its finished. Hope it works.

http://www.apcmag.com/5485/dualbooting_vista_and_xp

[jollyrancher82]

Gigabit LAN.

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Well, looks like I am not the only one with file copy problems and SP1 is supposedly going to fix it(a little).

http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/a...04/2826167.aspx

Fuck vista, I formatted the HDD and am now installing all my updates for XP. I wasted too much time trying to get Vista to play nice with XP and just want to be done with it for now. Maybe I will load it back up in VMware, but for now, XP FTW!

[SmoothCriminal]

Well, looks like I am not the only one with file copy problems and SP1 is supposedly going to fix it(a little).

http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/a...04/2826167.aspx

Fuck vista, I formatted the HDD and am now installing all my updates for XP. I wasted too much time trying to get Vista to play nice with XP and just want to be done with it for now. Maybe I will load it back up in VMware, but for now, XP FTW!

I agree.  It is a tough situation for Microsoft.  How do they improve with a new product, when they have a great product already out on the market.