metatron Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 OSX is base on the OpenDarwin CVS repository and OpenDarwin is crap. I own a few Macs including a Mac Book Pro and since there change over to Intel very little makes them stand out, beside the looks and when other company start producing computers with the same spec but at a quarter of the price, the only thing they will have left is some good looking machines which most people can’t afford. I will give you this OSX is better then Windows as a standard day to day OS (that’s not saying much) for watching movie, creating website and generally pissing around and the performance is good when running Windows using Boot camp but you are still better of using Windows for gaming and booting in to Linux for every thing else on a PC, the performance will be better (use an AMD) and so will the battery life if your running a laptop and you will save yourself a lot of money. If you have the money and you like the look of a Mac there’s no real reason not to buy one as you don’t have to use there OS and Gentoo runs nicely on the new Macs. Quote
metatron Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 I don’t hate Mac, I just think OSX is shit, Windows is shit to but at least with Windows it has a purpose which is gaming, there’s not a single reason for me to use OSX when I can use Linux. Quote
Technologique Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Oh God, please.. please don't talk to me about the new idea to put Intel inside Macs. I don't even want them to put Intel inside PCs! AMD = AOK Quote
metatron Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Now if Mac had gone with AMD and made a G5 with the two new quad core AMD’s (they will be out soon) and they made OSX run like a dream using all 8 core's I would say fuck the PC. Quote
Technologique Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Now if Mac had gone with AMD and made a G5 with the two new quad core AMD’s (they will be out soon) and they made OSX run like a dream using all 8 core's I would say fuck the PC. That... That.. That'd be pretty damn sweet. Quote
stingwray Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 If you mean by early 2007 for quad-core CPUs is early, then yes it is early. However not this year mate. Quote
metatron Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 They would have had some time to work on it then, but they may be out sooner. Intel does have some interesting products coming out in the future, which I’m sure Mac will use but Intel are well be hide AMD. Quote
VaKo Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Its a shame about Intel, i've always been a fan but its harder and harder to justify that now. AMD products, in my expirence, while damn fast are not as stable as Intel based systems when your doing long winded complex multitasking. Not sure what it is, but the AMD systems will fly doing one thing, yet struggle with lots of stuff being run at once. Seen this repeated with lots of systems so its not just my personal stuff. Anybody know why? Quote
metatron Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Its a shame about Intel, i've always been a fan but its harder and harder to justify that now. AMD products, in my expirence, while damn fast are not as stable as Intel based systems when your doing long winded complex multitasking. Not sure what it is, but the AMD systems will fly doing one thing, yet struggle with lots of stuff being run at once. Seen this repeated with lots of systems so its not just my personal stuff. Anybody know why? I would have to disagree with you there, in the past there has been some issues, which have largely been blown out of proposition, mainly by Intel spin doctors trying to discredit AMD in the server market by saying AMD had stability problems, but now they are just as stable as any Intel product doing any task or tasks. That’s why HP now put AMD’s in a bulk of there products, both desktop and servers and there servers are well known for there stability and quality. Quote
stingwray Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 The only reason that I would buy an Intel is if I was doing lots of video encoding which they fly at and AMD are slower. Otherwise for everything else it has got to be AMD everytime. Quote
VaKo Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Its not something i've heard of else where to be honest, and i have to mention that I've not been using the latest gen of AMD gear. But quite a few AMD/Nforce systems can't alt-tab whilst playing music without skipping, that I have seen. Not done any research on this, its purely what i've noticed. Quote
moonlit Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 I'm an AMD guy ever since the K6-2 (with 3DNow! Technology... ;)) I'm currently running an AthlonXP and have been through a few Athlons, a K6/K6-2 or two and I've been very happy with the speed and stability... the Intels I have owned however have not been so productive... from 486s to PII/PIIIs, I gave up on them... granted, I haven't tried a P4 yet but I made my choice - AMD all the way! As for the Mac issue, I've used a few and owned a few (mostly older generation models) but I must say that I've been happy with their perfomance too... the operating systems on the whole are generally stable, the mouse having one button is actually ok when you're used to it... Windows spoilt us ;) But I must also stand up for Macs here... I'm mainly a PC guy but they've taken quite a bashing from Intel, Microsoft and the whole Wintel crowd... shame really, they don't deserve that reputation! Quote
VaKo Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 I'm an AMD guy ever since the K6-2 (with 3DNow! Technology... ;)) I had one of those, it was great for games, but sucked balls for Lightwave in NT4. However, unless Intel can pull a very shinney rabbit out of there silicon hat, my next machine will be an AMD. Hopefully an operton system. Quote
stingwray Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 I think Vako that much be your setup then, I've never had that problem and have built over 30 different Athlon 64 machines and configured hundreds literally and never come across a problem with skipping music with alt-tabbing or anything else like that. Quote
metatron Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 My main box runs dual AMD Opteron 280 - Dual Core and I have tested it against a PC running dual Xeons and my PC won on all counts. Now the next G5 will probably be running dual Xeons and cost more then my PC. Quote
VaKo Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 Probally, not my systems (I went with an Intel P4 last system build, HT was actually quite good). I may have made it sound like its a problem with all AMD boxes, but it isn't. I've just noticed the same issue with 4 different AMD boxes, and wondered why I hadn't seen it on Intel systems running the same software. Quote
Technologique Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 I would tell y'all what I'm using at the moment, but I would sound like a hypocrite, having an Intel chip inside my Lappy, and no PC to speak of. Wait.. Damn, gave it away. Quote
stingwray Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 There was a rumour with some pictures of a prototype apple laptop with the new AMD turion inside it. It would be nice if it came out to be true. Quote
moonlit Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 A Pentium M @ 1.73GHz and 512MB RAM IIRC, Technologique :D @stingwray: yeah that would be awful nice... *drools* Quote
melodic Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 ahhhh the fine art of sex. wil do captin vako ;) *i wounder if wess is gay?* hahahaha :D Quote
moonlit Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 ... ... ... ... You'd have to ask him, but personally if I were that way inclined I'd probably choose Darre... *clears throat* Yes... well... better ask Wess that... Quote
melodic Posted April 15, 2006 Posted April 15, 2006 hahah moonlit :P wess is f....yeahh ill keep it too my self Quote
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