Niklz Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 hi there, havnt posted in a while but i think the show rocks. ive tried googling and ive found solutions that don't help me :( my problem is when i do anything with large files, i get DELAY WRITE FAILURE msgs and my pc crashes. its especially bad with torrents, annoying thing is it corrupts the data alot. things ive tried turned off write cacheing and all discs formated more times than i can remember used Cacheman to minimize the cacheing more thats about it, any suggestions would be fantastic... think ill pop into IRC later so ill keep this topic posted cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 If it's an external drive, it's fucked: "I received a delayed write failure error messages while copying data from an internal large capacity (200 GB) hard drive to a large capacity (250 GB) Maxtor drive connected to a USB2 enclosure. After copying about 60 GB data, the delayed write failure messages kept coming and the transfer slowed to a halt. I did some research on Google which referenced all kinds of issues and partial solutions. But all I had to do was connect the 250 GB drive internally through the IDE interface and the data transfer was flawless. It appears to be either a buffer or a cache issue and the USB2 transfer for large amounts of data caused problems that the internal transfer didn't. My data is now safely backed up on a hard drive and stored in a bank safety deposit box." OR Maybe you need to tweak your BIOS: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/330174 OR Maybe you need a new hard drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/UK/product/115418 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 its not an external drive, and ive had a look at that site a few times. heres my setup 320gb sata brand new 160gb ide 3 years old 120gb ide 3 or 2 years old and my board is asus A8N-SLI SE i was told perhaps flashing my bios will help... any tips and or advice on this would be great, is there any chance its my ram..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab Posted January 24, 2007 Share Posted January 24, 2007 from what ive read i'd say it's the cache on the hard drive in question, whichever it is. hard drives do die as im sure you know. flashing ur bios is fairly straightforward if you're familiar with reconfiguring the bios, just head over to http://www.asus.com/ i'm sure there's some instructions. doesnt sound like your ram, but do you have any spare ram about to eliminate that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 24, 2007 Author Share Posted January 24, 2007 no not really, the ram i have is all in there atm... dont really wanna lose both of my hdds... is there away of check which one it might be?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 25, 2007 Author Share Posted January 25, 2007 anyone else shed some light on this please?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mubix Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 Been here done this. Explain the enclosure. I have had the same problem with USB powered enclosures when not directly plugged into the computer and when my enclosure went bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 26, 2007 Author Share Posted January 26, 2007 its nice you read past the first post.... its not a usb external drive, anyone else with constructive ideas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsncorrosion Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 its nice you read past the first post....its not a usb external drive, anyone else with constructive ideas? You may want to try plugging one dirve in at a time, maybe in a different box. Maybe you can see which one is messed up. Also if you get an error message post it, A screenshot may be helpful too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deveant Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 hmm does it crash writing to all of ur drives or just one? how big are the files ur playing with? (ie 4gb ISO's) and are u running any drives with fat32? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 27, 2007 Author Share Posted January 27, 2007 ermm nah im not running fat32, ill try unplugging some of them and keep you guys posted, might not be today ive got a shit load of uni work to do. and yeah its .iso's and avis anything over a gig it normally kicks up a fuss but thats not to say it doesnt for other files its just more likely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichthuz Posted January 27, 2007 Share Posted January 27, 2007 run spinrite and see what you get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetelectric Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 This should be in questions thread... bad kittens! bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 Few other questions. What OS, version, updates,e tc. What other hardware involved (video, attached devices, etc) what services are running? Indexing turned on or off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 digip and everyone i hope this answers yous ques.. and whats spinrite? ill dl it it and let you know (never used it b4 tho..) copied from everest Computer Computer Type ACPI Multiprocessor PC Operating System Microsoft Windows XP Professional OS Service Pack Service Pack 2 Internet Explorer 6.0.2900.2180 (IE 6.0 SP2) DirectX 4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c) Computer Name NIKLZ-PC User Name niklz Logon Domain NIKLZ-PC Date / Time 2007-01-28 / 10:50 Motherboard CPU Type DualCore AMD Athlon 64 X2, 2400 MHz (12 x 200) 4600+ Motherboard Name Asus A8N-SLI SE (3 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x4, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Gigabit LAN) Motherboard Chipset nVIDIA nForce4 SLI, AMD Hammer System Memory 1536 MB (PC2700 DDR SDRAM) BIOS Type Award (03/09/06) Communication Port Communications Port (COM1) Communication Port ECP Printer Port (LPT1) Display Video Adapter GeForce 7900 GT (256 MB) Video Adapter NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT (256 MB) 3D Accelerator nVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT Monitor Plug and Play Monitor [NoDB] Multimedia Audio Adapter Realtek ALC850 @ nVIDIA nForce4 SLI (CK8-04) - Audio Codec Interface Storage IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller IDE Controller NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller IDE Controller Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller Storage Controller MagicISO SCSI Host Controller Disk Drive Maxtor 6Y120L0 (120 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133) Disk Drive Maxtor 6Y160P0 (160 GB, 7200 RPM, Ultra-ATA/133) Disk Drive WDC WD3200KS-00PFB0 (298 GB, IDE) Optical Drive HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-H10A (DVD+R9:8x, DVD-R9:4x, DVD+RW:16x/8x, DVD-RW:16x/6x, DVD-RAM:5x, DVD-ROM:16x, CD:48x/32x/48x DVD+RW/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM) Optical Drive MagicISO Virtual DVD-ROM0000 SMART Hard Disks Status FAIL Partitions C: (NTFS) 117232 MB (107903 MB free) E: (NTFS) 305234 MB (118545 MB free) Z: (NTFS) 156327 MB (1844 MB free) Total Size 565.2 GB (222.9 GB free) Input Keyboard Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft USB IntelliMouse Optical Network Adapter NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport (192.168.1.1) Peripherals USB1 Controller nVIDIA nForce4 SLI (CK8-04) - OHCI USB 1.1 Controller USB2 Controller nVIDIA nForce4 SLI (CK8-04) - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller USB Device Microsoft USB IntelliMouse Optical DMI DMI BIOS Vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD DMI BIOS Version ASUS A8N-SLI SE ACPI BIOS Revision 0502 DMI System Manufacturer System manufacturer DMI System Product System Product Name DMI System Version System Version DMI System Serial Number System Serial Number DMI System UUID 809E048F-9C7ADA11-B3D60011-2FF29574 DMI Motherboard Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer INC. DMI Motherboard Product A8N-SLI SE DMI Motherboard Version 1.XX DMI Motherboard Serial Number 123456789000 DMI Chassis Manufacturer Chassis Manufacture DMI Chassis Version Chassis Version DMI Chassis Serial Number EVAL DMI Chassis Asset Tag 123456789000 DMI Chassis Type Desktop Case DMI Total / Free Memory Sockets 4 / 1 Problems & Suggestions Problem Disk free space is only 1% on drive Z:. let us know if theres more info u want cheers in advance Niklz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 i just ran spinrite, and it says my sata is critical =/ but its only about 3 months old if that... someone on hak5 irc said it could be my sata controller, and looking at the text from everest "Disk Drive WDC WD3200KS-00PFB0 (298 GB, IDE)" it says its IDE?? is this normal? niklz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deveant Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 are u by anychance running it on a SATA controller? seperate from the other two drives? ie. The other 2 are useing the onbard, the 3rd s on a PCI SATA card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 no its all off the board... unless im missing something here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deveant Posted January 28, 2007 Share Posted January 28, 2007 :S and ur running all 3 as SATA drives? u havnt been playing around with hex editors have u? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 28, 2007 Author Share Posted January 28, 2007 no 2 of them are off the ide ports on the board and 1 off the sata... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted January 30, 2007 Author Share Posted January 30, 2007 anyone else got any ideas.. still really like to get to the bottom of this niklz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 Is System Restore on for the extra drives? Are they just used for storage and no oerating systems or sys file son them? If not, then turn off system restore for the extra drives - Drive Z on has 1% free? Is this the one your copying to/from or moving from when the error occurs. Check your NIC card for updated drivers. You said it happens on most torrents, possibly an online connection problem with the lan card and buffering issues. Try copying files with the lan card disabled (offline, from one disc to another). Check for bad IDE cables (usually a simple fix) or hardware connections. Also, a lot of people sued to get this error with external drives hooked up through USB. Try removing the SATA drive and just use the other two and see what happens. It may be confilcting with one of the other pci cards, like video or lan. Check hardware settings and see if they are sharing any irqs. (right-click my computer, then properties, hardware tab, device manager, and change view to "Devices by connection" See if anything has a little yellow exclamation point or your pci are sharing any connections or pci to usb is having problems. Something in there could be misconfigured or conflicting. Most likely its something simple, but I woul dbe the drive is actually ok and it is a problem somewhere in the connections. One last thing to try is change your virtual memory for the exta drives and give them less/more depending on th eamount of ram you have. You may be running into a wall if your not allocating enough swap space and sys restore is holding un accounted for space during your moving or downloading of files. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted February 1, 2007 Share Posted February 1, 2007 just read this : DELAY WRITE FAILURE: I am a Microsoft support engineer for Windows XP and had a customer call in with the write delay error and was able to fix her by downloading a XP driver for her disk controller card. When she installed XP, and this is true for everyone, the installation put a MS generic driver for her controller. We went to the mfg's web site and downloaded the XP driver for the card and her problem is now resolved. She was getting this error when trying to write above 140 gig on a 200 gig Maxtor 2000. Go to device manager and she if you disk controller has a Microsoft driver with a date of 6/2001. If you have that driver installed go to the mfg's web site for your card and get their XP driver and your problem should be resolved So make sure Windows is not the default driver for your hard drive disk controller card. You should check your manufacturers website for updated drivers. This may not fix your problem but give it a shot. Check under hardware settings and check the driver for each drive. If it is from Microsoft and or from 2001, you may need the updated driver. Also, you may be running into fragmentation issues. You cannot defrag a drive without enough space for the defrag to take place, but this may clear up some of the problems. Hak5 did a good episode explaining defrag and what the minimum space requirements were (can't remember off the top of my head) You may need to free up some space and clean up the disk (turn of indexing on all drives if it is currently turned on - forgot to ask this before - but it will severely impact your disk access and is not needed unless your searching under administratvie tools for certain text within a file) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niklz Posted February 2, 2007 Author Share Posted February 2, 2007 man thanks a bunch, just read one of your posts, ill read the other tomorow, and hit you back if any of it helped, or not gotta sleep now ttys Niklz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted February 2, 2007 Share Posted February 2, 2007 digip: Please use a smaller avatar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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