sekrit Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I am looking to try my hand at the "White Hat" life. There are a ton of open networks in my area, and I would like to expose vulnerabilities to the owners. To do this, I would like very much like to find where I can find an internal wifi adapter, so that I may attempt my audits discreetly. Everywhere I look, there are only USB options available. HOWEVER, If I see a wifi dongle with an antenna, they are at only about 1:100 ratio. These days seeing such stands out (at least in my area), and it would seem as though I may as well wear a sign to go along with it. Please assist me in finding an effective solution to match my needs. Thank you so very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-ee Jones Posted August 24, 2018 Share Posted August 24, 2018 I'm confused. What do you want? If PCI-e you're looking fairly "big", as it's a PCI-e card with a backplate. If USB, you're looking nail-sized USB or external WiFi card and antenna from a USB cable (ALFA-like). You could try getting a WiFi card similar to those in phones, but I'm not sure how it would work with a PC/laptop etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekrit Posted August 24, 2018 Author Share Posted August 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Dave-ee Jones said: I'm confused. What do you want? If PCI-e you're looking fairly "big", as it's a PCI-e card with a backplate. If USB, you're looking nail-sized USB or external WiFi card and antenna from a USB cable (ALFA-like). You could try getting a WiFi card similar to those in phones, but I'm not sure how it would work with a PC/laptop etc. Actually "Mini PCI-E" are for appliances such as laptops. I have never seen any with "backplates" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry99705 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 You mean something like these? Look through here, find one that will fit your laptop, then check to make sure it has the capabilities you need. https://www.thinkpenguin.com/catalog/wireless-networking-gnulinux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-ee Jones Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 8/24/2018 at 2:52 PM, sekrit said: Actually "Mini PCI-E" are for appliances such as laptops. I have never seen any with "backplates" Not sure if you're mocking me here or not.. You probably have, you just don't no what they're called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekrit Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Dave-ee Jones said: Not sure if you're mocking me here or not.. You probably have, you just don't no what they're called. Not mocking. Your image is of a PCI-E card, not "mini" PCI-E. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-ee Jones Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, sekrit said: Not mocking. Your image is of a PCI-E card, not "mini" PCI-E. I'm aware of that. So you want this? Edited August 29, 2018 by Dave-ee Jones That's a mighty big picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekrit Posted August 29, 2018 Author Share Posted August 29, 2018 18 hours ago, Dave-ee Jones said: I'm aware of that. So you want this? Yes. However, I believe that I may have found a mini PCI-E card to suit my needs. I will order that on on Friday and try it in my system. Thank You. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-ee Jones Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 6 hours ago, sekrit said: Yes. However, I believe that I may have found a mini PCI-E card to suit my needs. I will order that on on Friday and try it in my system. Thank You. Sorry, I should have specified "you want something like this". That was just a picture as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry99705 Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 On 8/23/2018 at 3:34 PM, sekrit said: I am looking to try my hand at the "White Hat" life. There are a ton of open networks in my area, and I would like to expose vulnerabilities to the owners. To do this, I would like very much like to find where I can find an internal wifi adapter, so that I may attempt my audits discreetly. Everywhere I look, there are only USB options available. HOWEVER, If I see a wifi dongle with an antenna, they are at only about 1:100 ratio. These days seeing such stands out (at least in my area), and it would seem as though I may as well wear a sign to go along with it. Please assist me in finding an effective solution to match my needs. Thank you so very much. Just an fyi, talk to a lawyer first. People get kind of funny with extortion. "I see you have an open network, would be a shame if all your data got out. I can fix that for X amount of cash". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekrit Posted August 30, 2018 Author Share Posted August 30, 2018 44 minutes ago, barry99705 said: Just an fyi, talk to a lawyer first. People get kind of funny with extortion. "I see you have an open network, would be a shame if all your data got out. I can fix that for X amount of cash". I appreciate that. Any strategy employed as a part of a business model/consultancy/not for profit/other by myself or any proximal person/agent would exclude extortion/blackmail/other practices viewed and or deemed prohibited as written by law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asidscript Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Sekrit, "I know I’m a bit late to this conversation", Here is how it works; you need to make a few decisions based on your circumstances. How are you hacking? are you really white hatting, in that case people are not going to mind seeing you walk around with a big external adapter connected. are you Gray / Black whereas in this case you’re going to want to be discreet. What are you hacking? 2.4, 5G or both? What OS are you using, there is a ton out there but the two most common are kali and parrot How is the OS being used, Natively or via a VM? Answer those and you will have the answer to your question. To understand how your answers affect the result: You need a wlan CHIPSET that supports both Packet Capture "monitor mode" and Probing "Packet Injection". Chipsets are connected to PCB boards, and PCB boards require drivers to translate and control the hardware attached to them. Not every OS has supported Drivers for Manufacturers, so you could have an adapter from let’s say Asus that has a chipset that can be used for hacking, but wont work because Asus don’t make the drivers for Monitor Mode or Packet Injection for specifically Kali and or Parrot. whereas you could buy an adapter from Alfa Networks that has a hacking capable Wi-Fi chipset that will work with both, "and out of the box in some cases". Next is the OS installation, a lot of adapters connected directly to a systems bus will not work in VM passthrough, again driver issues. honestly, I don’t think I have ever seen any bus connected wlan chipsets work with a vm. so, if you’re running your OS for hacking via a VM, 99% of the time its going to be a usb connected adapter. Not all laptops allow you to just pull out the wlan card and swap it for another, for example I tried something similar with my ThinkPad, I pulled out the WWAN card and put in a newer one, physically it connected fine, but the BIOS was locked and would not allow the hardware to work, so pay attention to that. So, if you find a laptop that has a preinstalled mPCIe wlan card that has a chipset designed for Wi-Fi hacking, awesome. or if you have a laptop that has an open bios, you might be able to buy a wlan card that will work for hacking Wi-Fi. Right now, I am looking to do some Gray hat pen testing, so I am looking around for a laptop that has an open bios so I can pop in an mPCIe. I know that you can get one from Alfa networks which has an 8812au chipset. and I’m looking about for a brand that works with kali or parrot which has either a Realtek 8812au 8814au or a 9271 from Atheros. By the way, those three chipsets are the main ones. and you can get them all from Alfa networks in adapter form. oh also, I suppose equally as important, for the brute force, you’re going to want to have a beefy CPU, or a CUDA capable GPU, unless you’re planning on waiting ages. Hope this helps, Right now, I am thinking of researching Framework laptops, very modular, open bios and I wanna stick in an Intel AWPCIE-ax200u Anyway, I hope this was in someway helpful. R Asid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_pyrro Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Well, sekrit hasn't been online for over 3 years, so I hope he/she "wakes up" to see what you have written. I don't agree to the fact that 881x is part of the "main ones" because they suck horses ass due to bad drivers for Linux based systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con2802 Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 is the Intel AWPCIE-ax200u still the best internal one or are there better ones? My last Wifi Card died and i am interested in hacking and wanted to try it on my on Wifi. My old Wifi-card was the Intel Ac-9560 and my Laptop is a Lenovo Yoga C640 Is there an entire Line of Intel Cards, that do monitor mode and injection? I couldnt find Informations on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irukandji Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 This is old forum thread. I don't know if it's still reverent.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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