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so, i talked my wife into letting me spend a bunch of money on building 2 gaming machines for our 2 sons ?

i plan to setup a gaming room. but also these machines will be used for hashcat cracking ?

the gpu i believe is estimated on the hashcat site at around 120,000 hash/s... at a cast of about $170 each...

i already have 2 gaming rigs, somewhat out of date but still excellent performers.

including my old machines, i estimate ill get around 300,000 hash/s with current shopping-list...

maybe ill sneak into the budget a new Gpu for my own Desktop rig...

 

comments suggestions, tips on hashcat gpu's... suggestions on bang for the buck...

i might revise the shopping-cart and lower the cost of cpu/motherboard/ram and free up more cash for a better performer Gpu.

maybe ill budget $100 on cpu...$40 on ram...$60 on motherboard... this could free up quit a bit for a higher end gpu.

i could bump up the budget per PC/gpu from $168 to $275

 

i could go side by side SLI configuration with a budget per card of $140 x 4 or so...

Sli or no Sli?

 

Shit i could even build one monster machine and make it a multi monitor Virtual gaming machine.

 

my amazon shopping cart sits right here...

Gpu $168 Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1050 Ti OC 4GB GDDR5 128 Bit PCI-E Graphic Card (GV-N105TOC-4GD)

Cpu $149 AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler (YD1600BBAEBOX)

motherboard $89 MSI Gaming AMD Ryzen B350 DDR4 VR Ready HDMI USB 3 CFX ATX Motherboard (B350 TOMAHAWK)

ram $79 Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Kit (4GBx2) DDR4 2666 MT/s (PC4-21300) SR x8 DIMM 288-Pin - BLS2K4G4D26BFSE (Red)

power supply $59 EVGA 550 B3, 80+ BRONZE 550W, Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 5 Year Warranty, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-B3-0550-V1

case $34 Rosewill ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case, Gaming Case with Blue LED for Desktop/PC and 3 Case Fans Pre-Installed, Front I/O Access Ports (CHALLENGER S)

ssd $26 Silicon Power 120GB SSD 3D NAND S55 TLC 7mm (0.28") Internal Solid State Drive (SP120GBSS3S55S25AE)

Total $610 x 2 = $1220

 

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Gigabyte Geforce GTX 1050 Ti OC 4GB GDDR5 128 Bit PCI-E Graphic Card (GV-N105TOC-4GD)

 

 

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AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Processor with Wraith Spire Cooler (YD1600BBAEBOX)

 

 

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MSI Gaming AMD Ryzen B350 DDR4 VR Ready HDMI USB 3 CFX ATX Motherboard (B350 TOMAHAWK)

 

 

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Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Kit (4GBx2) DDR4 2666 MT/s (PC4-21300) SR x8 DIMM 288-Pin - BLS2K4G4D26BFSE (Red)

 

 

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EVGA 550 B3, 80+ BRONZE 550W, Fully Modular, EVGA ECO Mode, 5 Year Warranty, Compact 150mm Size, Power Supply 220-B3-0550-V1

 

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Silicon Power 120GB SSD 3D NAND S55 TLC 7mm (0.28") Internal Solid State Drive (SP120GBSS3S55S25AE)

 

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Rosewill ATX Mid Tower Gaming Computer Case, Gaming Case with Blue LED for Desktop/PC and 3 Case Fans Pre-Installed, Front I/O Access Ports (CHALLENGER S)

 

Edited by i8igmac

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Here is a bench mark list i reorganized based on speed...

original list from 2017.

https://tutorials.technology/blog/08-Hashcat-GPU-benchmarking-table-Nvidia-and-amd.html

 

Radeon HD 4350 #1900 hash/s
Radeon HD 4550 #2000 hash/s
Radeon HD 4650 #8800 hash/s
Radeon HD 4670 #10000 hash/s
GeForce GTS 250: #10000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 260: #10100 hash/s
Radeon HD 5550 #10200 hash/s
GeForce GTX 275: #11400 hash/s
Radeon R7 240 #12000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 285: #13200 hash/s
GeForce GTX 550 Ti: #13400 hash/s
GeForce GTX 280: #14300 hash/s
Radeon HD 5570 #15100 hash/s
Radeon HD 4830 #15600 hash/s
GeForce GTX 460: #17600 hash/s
Radeon HD 5670 #18000 hash/s
Radeon HD 6570 #18100 hash/s
Radeon HD 4860 #19000 hash/s
Radeon HD 4730 #20400 hash/s
Radeon HD 4770 #20400 hash/s
GeForce GTX 465: #21000 hash/s
Radeon HD 4850 #21300 hash/s
GeForce GTX 670: #23700 hash/s
GeForce GTX 560 Ti: #24500 hash/s
Radeon HD 7750 #24700 hash/s
GeForce GTX 295: #25400 hash/s
Radeon HD 4870 #25500 hash/s
GeForce GTX 470: #26800 hash/s
Radeon HD 4890 #28900 hash/s
GeForce GTX 680: #29000 hash/s
Radeon HD 5750 #29200 hash/s
GeForce GTX 480: #33100 hash/s
GeForce GTX 570: #34609 hash/s
Radeon HD 7770 #38700 hash/s
GeForce GTX 580: #38900 hash/s
GeForce GTX 760 #39000 hash/s
Radeon HD 5770 #39500 hash/s
GeForce GTX 750 #42000 hash/s
Radeon HD 6850 #43200 hash/s
Radeon HD 5830 #52000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 770 #52000 hash/s
Tesla S1070 400: #53100 hash/s
Radeon HD 7850 #53300 hash/s
GeForce GTX 690: #54300 hash/s
GeForce GTX 750 Ti #55000 hash/s
Radeon R7 260x OC #56000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 750 Ti oc #56000 hash/s
Radeon HD 6930 #57100 hash/s
Radeon HD 6870 #58500 hash/s
Tesla S1070 500: #59000 hash/s
Radeon HD 5850 #60600 hash/s
GeForce GTX 750 Ti sc #61000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 590: #61200 hash/s
Radeon HD 6950 #68100 hash/s
Radeon R9 270 #70000 hash/s
Radeon R9 270X #77000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 780 #77000 hash/s
Radeon HD 7870 #77400 hash/s
Radeon HD 5870 #79000 hash/s
Radeon HD 6970 #81800 hash/s
GeForce GTX titan #88000 hash/s
Radeon HD 7950 #90700 hash/s
GeForce GTX 780 Ti #100000 hash/s
Radeon R9 280 #101000 hash/s
Radeon R9 280X #105000 hash/s
GeForce GTX titan black #105000 hash/s
Radeon HD 7970 #114600 hash/s
GeForce GTX 960 #115000 hash/s
Radeon HD 5970 #134000 hash/s
Radeon R9 380X #145000 hash/s
Radeon R9 290 #147000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 970 #150000 hash/s
Radeon HD 6990 #154300 hash/s
Radeon R9 290X #163000 hash/s
Radeon RX 480 #185000 hash/s
GeForce GTX titan Z #188000 hash/s
Radeon R9 390X #200000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 980 #200000 hash/s
Radeon RX 580 #224000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 980 Ti #240000 hash/s
GeForce GTX titan X #279000 hash/s
GeForce GTX 1070 #285000 hash/s
Radeon R9 295 x2 #347000 hash/s
Nvidia GTX 1080 #396800 hash/s
GeForce GTX titan XP #520000 hash/s
Nvidia GTX 1080Ti #576000 hash/s

 

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Evga Gtx 1070 ti sc ($370)

 

I see online hashcat wpa/wpa2 almost 300,000 hash/s

I made up my mind... I'm getting 2 of these for sure, maybe 3...

 

I have this budget build at $630 x 2

I'm confident they will perform like top of the line rigs.

 

EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 SC GAMING ACX 3.0 Black Edition, 8GB GDDR5, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) 08G-P4-5173-KR

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Anymore updates on this? I'm curious ?

I haven't done any indepth reseach into this but I think the SLI technology is only really applicable to gaming. Hashcat doesn't care if you run different cards by different manufacturers as long as the motherboard has the slots for it so don't throw out your old cards (unless they're not supported by hashcat) ?

I experimented with something similar for hashcat purposes and then for crypto mining when that was the cool thing to do. I have x2 1080s, a 960, and a Radeon RX 580. The Radeon was great for mining monero but half the speed of the 1080 for cracking wpa2. I found that running hashcat on ubuntu server to be optimum for hashing speeds despite some saying windows has better driver support.

At 600K h/s you will be able to crack most default WPA2 passwords out there. The 10 random hex passes will still be a challenge - it will take you roughly 21.2 days to exhaust the whole keyspace. Technically speaking you will have a greater than 50% chance of cracking it after only 10.6 days and you can decrease that further with some rules etc. Complex passwords and anything greater than 8 random chars (alpha-numeric) you can forget about.

I don't know if it's worth building your own cracking rig with anything more than 2 or 3 cards unless you're going to do complex passes on a regular basis. I think most people these days just hire out Amazon AWS servers if they need something serious cracked. I haven't tried it yet but I might check it out.

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On 8/16/2018 at 11:23 PM, i8igmac said:

Evga Gtx 1070 ti sc ($370)

I see online hashcat wpa/wpa2 almost 300,000 hash/s

I made up my mind... I'm getting 2 of these for sure, maybe 3...

There's a reason why 1070/1070 Ti's were ridiculously sought after during the crypto-currency time, and that was because people were filling server-racks with them because they were the cheapest and best for the buck. Next was 1080 Ti but that was a jump of just over twice the price.

I myself have a 1080 Ti in my own rig. Before that it was a 1050 Ti which has a pretty poor hash-per-second rating for its power consumption so don't bother with one of those.

I would probably downgrade the RAM to 2400 MHz. Save you a fair few dollars and you won't notice the difference performance-wise.

Can't say I approve of all the AMD base-hardware (Mobo/CPU) but I haven't used it for yonkers so I can only hope it's better than it once was. I'm all-out Intel, although to be fair it's more expensive. More like the Apple of PC hardware, while AMD is more like Android.

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