rFayjW98ciLoNQLDZmFRKD Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 What about dual layered DVD's, you can cut the number of disks you need in half, but it might cost more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Kitchen Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 wow you must really need something cracked if your willing to dedicate 120gb on your box to rainbow tables 120 GB hard drive...$55 FedEX express shipping...$12 Knowing that you can crack just about any LM hash...Priceless Some things money can't buy. For everything else there's the Microshaft Platinum Hax0r card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matir Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 120 GB hard drive...$55FedEX express shipping...$12 Knowing that you can crack just about any LM hash...Priceless Some things money can't buy. For everything else there's the Microshaft Platinum Hax0r card. LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted December 29, 2006 Share Posted December 29, 2006 wow you must really need something cracked if your willing to dedicate 120gb on your box to rainbow tables 120 GB hard drive...$55 FedEX express shipping...$12 Knowing that you can crack just about any LM hash...Priceless Some things money can't buy. For everything else there's the Microshaft Platinum Hax0r card. What's the APR on that one aardwolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rFayjW98ciLoNQLDZmFRKD Posted December 30, 2006 Share Posted December 30, 2006 wow you must really need something cracked if your willing to dedicate 120gb on your box to rainbow tables 120 GB hard drive...$55 FedEX express shipping...$12 Knowing that you can crack just about any LM hash...Priceless Some things money can't buy. For everything else there's the Microshaft Platinum Hax0r card. SO, when is that coming out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insboswiz Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 Okay, first of all apologies for a somewhat ignorant question here: LM hashes can be up to 14 characters (if your password is more than 14 characters, Windows will simply not generate an LM hash) Now, I also know that LM hashes greater than 7 characters but less than 15 are broken into two 7 character pieces which is one of the reasons that LM is so much easier to crack than NTLM. So, say I use pwdump to dump the LM hashes some of which are for passwords greater than 7 characters. My question is, if I use these tables with the rainbow crack program, will the rainbow crack program know how to break the hash into two pieces and determine the plaintext or will it fail with passwords greater than 7 characters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 The password is padded with nul bytes (hex 0x00) until it's 14 characters long. These 14 characters are then split up into 2 7-byte sequences, of which the hash is computed. Those 2 hashes are then concatenated to form the LMHash. Passwords longer than 14 characters cannot be used to compute an LMHash for. The LMHash of passwords shorter than 8 bytes will always end with the same 8 characters (the hash of 7 nul bytes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 The password is padded with nul bytes (hex 0x00) until it's 14 characters long. These 14 characters are then split up into 2 7-byte sequences, of which the hash is computed. Those 2 hashes are then concatenated to form the LMHash.Passwords longer than 14 characters cannot be used to compute an LMHash for. The LMHash of passwords shorter than 8 bytes will always end with the same 8 characters (the hash of 7 nul bytes). How does a Computer respond that only used LMHashes when you use a password of 15+ chars? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remkow Posted December 31, 2006 Share Posted December 31, 2006 It will either stop you from entering more than 14 chars, or it will automatically use ntlm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silivrenion Posted January 1, 2007 Author Share Posted January 1, 2007 That's correct, windows will default to NTLM if the pass is longer than 14 characters. Personally, my high security passwords are 16 characters or greater, defeating any chance of cracking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insboswiz Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 Okay, so the question remains, does the current incarnation of the rainbow tables automatically handle passwords up to 14 characters or does it require some manual intervention to work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remkow Posted January 1, 2007 Share Posted January 1, 2007 LM hashes become two separate 7 char hashes. The tables available crack any LM hash which has 1-7 chars, so it will crack any LM hash there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuey Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 There's a section of the wiki now devoted to the mail in program. The new program's name is RainbowTables by Mail...http://hak5.org/w/index.php?title=Communit...wTables_by_mail I'm sorry if this ends up being a stupid question, but where in the heck is the actual info on how to get a drive with these tables shipped? I have gone to the link you posted, but I don't see anything on that page that actually tells how to start that process :? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Doesn't it say "contact Silivrenion for details" up there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Kitchen Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Whoever is heading up the tables by mail project needs to put some more detailed info on there, we're getting flooded with requests on the hak5 mailboxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silivrenion Posted January 5, 2007 Author Share Posted January 5, 2007 Thanks for the heads up. If you've received anything, please forward it to hak5rainbowtables@gmail.com. That will be the new group email, to avoid having personal mailboxes become filled. I'll also edit the rt by mail page to reflect that new address, and stress its separation from the main hak5 show, with nice bold letters and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatBug Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Does the Charset include the space character? How do these tables differ from the other primary rainbow tables source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789!@#$%^&*()-_+=~`[]{}|:;"'<>,.?/ The above are all the characters that this table uses, and presumably all the characters a Windows password will allow. So no, no spaces. The main difference between these rainbow tables and the others is its sheer size due to the completeness of the character set used. Other tables either restrict themselves to ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789 or ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789!@#$%^&*()-_+= (see charset.txt in the RainbowCrack software package) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatBug Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789!@#$%^&*()-_+=~`[]{}|:;"'<>,.?/The above are all the characters that this table uses, and presumably all the characters a Windows password will allow. So no, no spaces. The main difference between these rainbow tables and the others is its sheer size due to the completeness of the character set used. Other tables either restrict themselves to ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789 or ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789!@#$%^&*()-_+= (see charset.txt in the RainbowCrack software package) Unfortunately, the space character is a valid character in windows passwords. Space is included in both the charsets and examples on the rainbowcrack project site (http://www.antsight.com/zsl/rainbowcrack/). Hopefully this is simply an error in typography when listing the charset for this project, rather than the actual omission of the space character from the set. Sorry I cannot test this, I havent got the 120GB free on one machine to do so. Also, I am curious why the rc project page says that the charset above (plus space) should be 64 GB, rather than your as built 120GB. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuey Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Thanks for the heads up. If you've received anything, please forward it to hak5rainbowtables@gmail.com. That will be the new group email, to avoid having personal mailboxes become filled. I'll also edit the rt by mail page to reflect that new address, and stress its separation from the main hak5 show, with nice bold letters and stuff. Thanks Silivrenion for the follow up :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiboTheClown Posted February 21, 2007 Share Posted February 21, 2007 Hy rainbow guys, Why the torrent upload stay blocked at 89.4% since days now ??? Will it ever restart or is the server yet in FBI or NSA office ??? Any answer will be highly appreciate. Thanks guys and really nice global (and huge) work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcperkel Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 No seeding for days now. Starting to look like the torrent was just a gimmick for getting people to order the hard drives. rather lame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiboTheClown Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiboTheClown Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Must agree somewhere : this is the very first time I download a torrent made of 200 pieces and cannot get at least one of them at 100%... Definitely crap ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlit Posted February 22, 2007 Share Posted February 22, 2007 Would you quit with the "zomg it wuz a gimmick and i need 2 crak shit"? This was a community project, 120GB is a lot of file, and that needs a lot of bandwidth. No-one was obliged to seed this at all, just be lucky there's people out there that do this. This project has been going a while now and people can't seed a 120GB for insanely long periods of time. You wanna help? Sure, I'm sure that'd be most welcome, but in the meantime, don't complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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