Digitally Colourful Mistifier Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Hi, I got to play with my Turtle for the first time 2 days ago. Worked pretty fine and I could follow the primer video's that Daren has on youtube. I got to the point where I had a working SSH-relay over a cloud-hosted C2-server that I setup for this experiment. Now, as Daren recommends in his videos, I went for an update of the firmware. Nothing wrong, the thing was connected to the internet via the ethernet-port so it went like a breeze. After about 15min or so I could login again with the default pass, but when I now try to install any modules it says it can't find any. When I try to get another system update it says it's offline while if I go to shell and view the ifconfig output it does show that I have an IP from my local LAN. Already did some digging and found already one fix: after the 'offline' message when I went for a system update check, I went into the shell to check if I had internet. A simple wget google.com indicated that I didn't. Unplugged it and plugged it in again, nothing. So I went back to the turtle shell, and figured that the thing maybe is trying to make a WAN connection over the 3g modem, which would not work ofcourse because I don't have a SIM in it yet. So, I noticed that the 3g configs had a setting to do a 'fallback to wan', so I enabled that and set the fallback timer from the default 200 to 5. Not entirely sure if this is correct but I figured that this setting means that by default the turtle would look for an internet-connection on the 3g modem first and if it didn't get a connection on that after 200sec it would fallback to the ethernet-port. This actually fixed the internet-connection issue indeed, after making these fallback settings I could succesfully wget google.com. So I thought "hey I got internet, so let's try to get these modules back to work", but still no luck. When I try to install a system update from the Turtle shell it doesn't complain about offline connection or so, it just says 'no updates found', same for when I try to install modules. I have already tried getting the latest firmware (version 4) and flash the Turtle with this but this didn't change anything. Again: all this trouble started after I upgraded. When I received my Turtle it just worked out of the box with the installed firmware, but it got fubar since I upgraded. Any help? Suggestions? I noticed a few other posts concerning the same issue but these date from 2yrs ago and since I'm guessing this has something to do with the most recent update I installed I figured it would probably be better to create a new thread on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitally Colourful Mistifier Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 Going to try another approach: going to assume that the version that I had initially was version 3, so downloaded that again and I am doing a manual downgrade now. Hopefully this will work. Will post update afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitally Colourful Mistifier Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 Yes, that worked. Downgrading back to version 3 did the trick. Now, I assume that there is good reason to have v4, otherwise it probably wouldn't exist, so maybe it would be interesting to research this a bit further to know what went wrong with v4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_a_User Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Confirmed on standard LANturtle, v3 all ok, v4 modules are "funny" I had some download & install but some had issues running or installing dependencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitally Colourful Mistifier Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, Just_a_User said: Confirmed on standard LANturtle, v3 all ok, v4 modules are "funny" I had some download & install but some had issues running or installing dependencies. So something is definitely off with the latest version. Anyone from the developers around that could have a clue about what's causing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_a_User Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Digitally Colourful Mistifier said: Anyone from the developers around that could have a clue about what's causing this? Its holidays. So I hope they are enjoying some family and friends time ATM. Also there is a new release of WIfi Pineapple firmware which needs some support. I would say for now rock the v3 FW and im sure they will get to it ASAP. I will also mention to them on IRC when I next see them online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitally Colourful Mistifier Posted December 25, 2017 Author Share Posted December 25, 2017 Yes, first get ur bellies filled with turkey and other goodness! Priorities people! Priorities :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebkinne Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Hi @Digitally Colourful Mistifier and @Just_a_User, What modules are causing the issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_a_User Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Just now, Sebkinne said: Hi @Digitally Colourful Mistifier and @Just_a_User, What modules are causing the issues? Was trying to use the tor module at the time. will try and put a list together ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebkinne Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 I think we might have found the issue. Can you please try running the following command over ssh: echo "src/gz chaos_calmer_oldpackages http://downloads.openwrt.org/chaos_calmer/15.05.1/ar71xx/generic/packages/oldpackages" >> /etc/opkg/distfeeds.conf After you have done this, reboot your LAN Turtle and try again. Do the issues go away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitally Colourful Mistifier Posted December 26, 2017 Author Share Posted December 26, 2017 23 minutes ago, Sebkinne said: Hi @Digitally Colourful Mistifier and @Just_a_User, What modules are causing the issues? I just installed all of them, so not really sure which one it was. But the trouble didn't start when having those modules installed. It started when having upgraded to v4. I undid it by downloading v3 and downgrading again. So I currently run v3 without any problems. I think the behavior can be reconstructed by just upgrading a clean device to v4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_a_User Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 19 minutes ago, Sebkinne said: I think we might have found the issue. Can you please try running the following command over ssh: echo "src/gz chaos_calmer_oldpackages http://downloads.openwrt.org/chaos_calmer/15.05.1/ar71xx/generic/packages/oldpackages" >> /etc/opkg/distfeeds.conf After you have done this, reboot your LAN Turtle and try again. Do the issues go away? Ran command. Rebooted. Uninstalled modules. Installed nmap, tried to configure, when i get to log see flash of an error something about window opening but its very fast so i cant grab screen shot. Cant run the scan as no log configured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just_a_User Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Tor gives this URL snarf test giving me this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitally Colourful Mistifier Posted December 26, 2017 Author Share Posted December 26, 2017 15 minutes ago, Sebkinne said: I think we might have found the issue. Can you please try running the following command over ssh: echo "src/gz chaos_calmer_oldpackages http://downloads.openwrt.org/chaos_calmer/15.05.1/ar71xx/generic/packages/oldpackages" >> /etc/opkg/distfeeds.conf After you have done this, reboot your LAN Turtle and try again. Do the issues go away? Thanks but I just finished setting it up on v3 as I wanted it for my project so I'm going to stay on v3 for now. I don't think the fix you suggest would actually solve the connection problem after having upgraded to v4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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