jenku Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Hi, Just a question - got the LAN Turtle 3G to play with and want to make it more "believable" as an adapter - how easy or hard would it be to change out the USB to USB-C? Any tips or recommendations? Thoughts on tools required? Much appreciated from a newbie, jenku Quote
Dave-ee Jones Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Who can you think of that carries around a USB-C to Ethernet dongle? USB to ethernet is far more widely used and known.. But for education's sake, I would say it would be pretty hard to do if you want to completely swap out the normal USB for USB-C. You could just get a USB to USB C adapter? Quote
barry99705 Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Dave-ee Jones said: Who can you think of that carries around a USB-C to Ethernet dongle? USB to ethernet is far more widely used and known.. But for education's sake, I would say it would be pretty hard to do if you want to completely swap out the normal USB for USB-C. You could just get a USB to USB C adapter? Pretentious Mac users... Quote
Dave-ee Jones Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 2 hours ago, barry99705 said: Pretentious Mac users... Yeah...I forgot about those guys...That's their own problem, haha. Quote
digip Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 Damn Apple hipsters always ruining things with their avocado toast... Quote
jenku Posted September 20, 2017 Author Posted September 20, 2017 Thanks for the opinions - but I was hoping for something more along the lines of "soldering tool, vice, vice block, these are the number of pins you'd need to solder, if you're blind get a magnifying glass, maybe go off on a tangent and build a reflow oven" types of responses and maybe a pointer to some articles or tutorials on how to test and make it? I've seen USB micro to USB 3 conversions and was hoping that posting this on Hak5 would result in targeted feedback. So, I ask again - tips and advice? Quote
Exmix Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/17/2017 at 9:16 PM, Dave-ee Jones said: Who can you think of that carries around a USB-C to Ethernet dongle? On 9/17/2017 at 11:31 PM, barry99705 said: Pretentious Mac users... On 9/18/2017 at 1:44 AM, Dave-ee Jones said: Yeah...I forgot about those guys...That's their own problem, haha. On 9/18/2017 at 7:38 AM, digip said: Damn Apple hipsters always ruining things with their avocado toast... I am in no way a Mac user, I do not own anything Mac/Apple/i anything BUT I have a USB-C to Ethernet adapter becayse my phone(Moto Z force) is USB-C. Mind you I only have one, and do not carry it around with me...BUT none the less, I do have one. Quote
barry99705 Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 You can't just solder a usb-c cable to a non usb-c board and expect it to work. They're not the same. That's how we had all those cables that were burning up phones at the beginning of usb-c adoption. Quote
reubadoob Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 6:13 AM, jenku said: got the LAN Turtle 3G to play with How did you get one already?! Quote
digip Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 6 hours ago, Exmix said: I am in no way a Mac user, I do not own anything Mac/Apple/i anything BUT I have a USB-C to Ethernet adapter becayse my phone(Moto Z force) is USB-C. Mind you I only have one, and do not carry it around with me...BUT none the less, I do have one. Was just a joke, not pointing at anyone personally..lol Quote
Exmix Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 9 hours ago, digip said: Was just a joke, not pointing at anyone personally..lol Yeah I know, I took it as a joke. I was just replying to be stupid. GUessI should have put some more feelings into it to make it more obviosu I was being silly about it. xD Quote
jenku Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 12 hours ago, reubadoob said: How did you get one already?! DefCon - they had them available at the Hak5 table. I believe they're available online as well. Quote
jenku Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 16 hours ago, barry99705 said: You can't just solder a usb-c cable to a non usb-c board and expect it to work. They're not the same. That's how we had all those cables that were burning up phones at the beginning of usb-c adoption. Thoughts on https://www.amazon.com/Chenyang-24pin-Female-Socket-Connector/dp/B00VJ944V2/ref=sr_1_4 ? It's the 24 pin female socket with the board - definitely going to need a lovely magnifying glass and a nice soldering tool. I was more worried about voltage - I was reading that USB-c is supposed to be backwards compatible - but yeah that's one thing I was worried about. Don't want to burn my turtle. Quote
jenku Posted September 21, 2017 Author Posted September 21, 2017 On 9/18/2017 at 7:38 AM, digip said: Damn Apple hipsters always ruining things with their avocado toast... Try the toast with sundried tomatoes and feta cheese - nothing wrong with toast with tea. Regarding USB-c dongle hipster-ness - higher throughput and being able to charge on the same port seems like the right direction. I'm sure something better will come along in a few years anyways. But in all seriousness - I haven't messed around with boards in a while and would like to not set fire to all the things on accident. Quote
digip Posted September 21, 2017 Posted September 21, 2017 3 hours ago, jenku said: Thoughts on https://www.amazon.com/Chenyang-24pin-Female-Socket-Connector/dp/B00VJ944V2/ref=sr_1_4 ? It's the 24 pin female socket with the board - definitely going to need a lovely magnifying glass and a nice soldering tool. I was more worried about voltage - I was reading that USB-c is supposed to be backwards compatible - but yeah that's one thing I was worried about. Don't want to burn my turtle. What if you guttered an USB-C to USB adapter, then put the adapter on, then put in a new enclosure. Seems safer/quicker than trying to solder and fry things that could damage the unit. Quote
Cap_Sig Posted September 22, 2017 Posted September 22, 2017 15 hours ago, digip said: What if you guttered an USB-C to USB adapter, then put the adapter on, then put in a new enclosure. Seems safer/quicker than trying to solder and fry things that could damage the unit. I would try this first. I thing the chip for USB-C is different than previous USB. So it would require more than just a connector. Not saying it can't be done tho. Quote
jenku Posted September 22, 2017 Author Posted September 22, 2017 15 hours ago, digip said: What if you guttered an USB-C to USB adapter, then put the adapter on, then put in a new enclosure. Seems safer/quicker than trying to solder and fry things that could damage the unit. That's a pretty good idea - I think I'll plan, get the tools, and then try two approaches - your approach seems more likely to succeed. I'd like to mod it into something that is discreet, functional, and not going to blow up on me. Dongle inception is a bit too much if I'm trying to do intel gathering. Excellent idea. Quote
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