CaveMan Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 lets pretend i was an interesting guy who had something huge to hide would doing this work/do anything using truecypt to encrypt a file putting the encrypted file into a folder and ecrypting the folder would this work? or am i missing some of the theory behind encryption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 lets pretend i was an interesting guy who had something huge to hide Porn spam! :twisted: would doing this work/do anythingusing truecypt to encrypt a file putting the encrypted file into a folder and ecrypting the folder would this work? or am i missing some of the theory behind encryption? What's the point of the encrypted folder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveMan Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 encrypting an encrypted file basically Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boristsr Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Unlike compression, encrypting an encrypted file would work. Assuming that you didn't use encryption methods and keys that by some freak accident the second one reversed the first one. Although, if you used a strong encryption method, and a good key, the need for this is pretty much non-existant (unless you are a REALLY interesting guy, but honestly, your porn isn't that good :P). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveMan Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 if i were interesting i wouldn't be asking it on forums i would write it memorise it and clean format my drive than bend the discs and throw them in the fire how ever... i respect all my hdd's even if my music one is only 20 gig and a good 5-7 years old (cant remember) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Think of encryption as a safe, if you want to keep something safe you'd put it in a safe, and if you wanted it to be really safe, you'd put the first safe in another safe so it's more safe. But remember something about safes people keep important things in safes so it might not really be safe in a safe... safety speaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 To stick with the analogy, you're indeed placing a safe in a safe. However, the point being made is that rather than using 2 safes, you get one and this time make sure it's a good one, so you don't have to account for the eventuality that 'they' get into the first one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 truecrypt I think is the best 'safe' there is around if I'm mistaken let me know. Open source and free are qualities that help make truecrypt the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveMan Posted December 11, 2006 Author Share Posted December 11, 2006 yes but in my eyes, encryption software shouldn't be open source, it makes it easier to find security holes, exploits but that could just be my logic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeoneE1se Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 knowing how it works does not help when it's based on huge random numbers... and you'd prefer something closed so that theres a back door you don't know about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dаrren Kitchen Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 yes but in my eyes, encryption software shouldn't be open source, it makes it easier to find security holes, exploitsbut that could just be my logic Not quite. Encryption apps should be based on a strong algorithm, not on security though obscurity. If the algorithm is good and implemented right, then seeing the source does not help an attacker any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CompTech Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 TrueCrypt can do lots of neat things, like create a hidden encrypted volume inside another encrypted volume. Each with seperate keys and multiple encryption algoritms protecting the data inside each. Here's a tutorial I found on it: http://element14.wordpress.com/2006/10/15/...pt-for-windows/ Just don't forget the passwords to the volumes or your data is gone for good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 go here: http://www.grc.com/securitynow.htm listen to the episodes about encryption and then listen to the episode about truecrypt. Very good information. If you really feel like it, download and listen to them all; it is one of my favorite podcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren Kitchen Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 encrypt the shit out of it with whatever tried and true cyphers are available to you hide it using stenagoraphy use truecrypt to put it in a hidden partition chop the file in half, put one in on a usb key, put the other on an audio cd keep the audio cd in your car put your car in an air tight cargo container and sink it in a lake remove the IC from the usb key and implant it in your right butt cheak tell your parents that you've joined a cult and move to montana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Mischif Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 encrypt the shit out of it with whatever tried and true cyphers are available to youhide it using stenagoraphy use truecrypt to put it in a hidden partition chop the file in half, put one in on a usb key, put the other on an audio cd keep the audio cd in your car put your car in an air tight cargo container and sink it in a lake remove the IC from the usb key and implant it in your right butt cheak tell your parents that you've joined a cult and move to montana ^that's just crazy enough to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudobreed Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 encrypt the shit out of it with whatever tried and true cyphers are available to youhide it using stenagoraphy use truecrypt to put it in a hidden partition chop the file in half, put one in on a usb key, put the other on an audio cd keep the audio cd in your car put your car in an air tight cargo container and sink it in a lake remove the IC from the usb key and implant it in your right butt cheak tell your parents that you've joined a cult and move to montana Do all this then forget to dban your hard drive so they just pull it all back prior to the initial encrypt. I was about to mention the hidden volumes in Truecrypt, however, you did already. So, with that said, this is your best bet. Im one of the most paranoid people I know, so I have an initial Truecrypt volume wrapped around hidden volumes. This way if I was ever tortured to open my truecrypt volume, the person will not know that there are more volumes inside. They will just see the files within the first volume which is just fluff. Just remember that encryption is useless if you do not "shred" the original files that are not encrypted. Doesnt matter how strong your "safe" is. If you leave the document sitting on your desk, the thief will not go for the safe unless out of curiosity. I guess that makes the difference between a good thief and a bad one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 If you don't want to take the time to do all of this, rename the file to something that no one will want to look at, put it in a folder (doesn't matter which), and you are safe. Security through obscurity, its a wonderful thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 -rw-rw-r-- 1 cooper cooper 136542535776 Dec 9 10:17 goatse_guy.jpg :twisted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Admit it, you wouldn't want to examine that file, even though it's 136 gb in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antirem Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 tell your parents that you've joined a cult and move to montana the last step is only applicable if you are an "interesting guy" if your only average or even sub-par this is only time your waisting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildknaap Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 lets pretend i was an interesting guy who had something huge to hide You might want to setup an Encrypted Root Filesystem. This geek has put a nice howto online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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