inspired Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Hello folks, I want a 13" laptop for everyday use and also for pentesting. Can't choose between Dell XPS 13 (ones that Darren and Snubs have) and Macbook Pro 13 w/o touchbar (2016). Any suggestions? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Seems this is more a choice between OS-es than between different hardware? I would say the question: would you rather work with osx then windows/Linux looks more important then the question which hardware you would use. Although I admit all OS-es can run on all these platforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspired Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, ɱax said: Seems this is more a choice between OS-es than between different hardware? I would say the question: would you rather work with osx then windows/Linux looks more important then the question which hardware you would use. Although I admit all OS-es can run on all these platforms. Does MacOS suitable for pentesting as Linux? Could I install pentesting tools on macOS or with macOS I'll face with virtual machines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamo Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 yup, with osx you will eventually have to install kali or another pentesting os to virtualmachine. Even tho a lot of nice tools can be `brew install`ed to mac. So if you go with a linux laptop, sure you can get all tools installed manually, or go with kali linux. However, kali might not be a great day to day OS; so you might end up virtualizing it anyways... (what I've done myself). Also, depending where your interests are, you might also need windows (for e.g IDA) so you might end up playing with virtualization anyways. Yet with a modern laptop the overhea of virtual machine is barely noticeable. Myself I've chosen to use macOS (15" touchbar) and throw in a VMWare kali whenever I feel doing more complicated stuff... So I'd worry more about how I like to hardware and OS I'd be using for next 3-5 years, than just how it's suited for pentesting. Especially if it's going to be a hobby and not a profession; sure it's different if you end up doing it fulltime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspired Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 10 hours ago, Jamo said: yup, with osx you will eventually have to install kali or another pentesting os to virtualmachine. Even tho a lot of nice tools can be `brew install`ed to mac. So if you go with a linux laptop, sure you can get all tools installed manually, or go with kali linux. However, kali might not be a great day to day OS; so you might end up virtualizing it anyways... (what I've done myself). Also, depending where your interests are, you might also need windows (for e.g IDA) so you might end up playing with virtualization anyways. Yet with a modern laptop the overhea of virtual machine is barely noticeable. Myself I've chosen to use macOS (15" touchbar) and throw in a VMWare kali whenever I feel doing more complicated stuff... So I'd worry more about how I like to hardware and OS I'd be using for next 3-5 years, than just how it's suited for pentesting. Especially if it's going to be a hobby and not a profession; sure it's different if you end up doing it fulltime. I'm working as pentester fulltime and mainly use Debian-based systems, so thats why I wonder if macOS will be suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0N3z Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 Ive found that no matter much i dont want to use a VM on my 2015 mbp... I have to have one as not everything that even brew lets you install is as good as the linux version. So I keep a Kali VM. I use to Dualboot but that is just a bigger pain in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspired Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 On 2/27/2017 at 6:59 AM, b0N3z said: Ive found that no matter much i dont want to use a VM on my 2015 mbp... I have to have one as not everything that even brew lets you install is as good as the linux version. So I keep a Kali VM. I use to Dualboot but that is just a bigger pain in the ass. So Dell XPS with Linux will be more convinient one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rkiver Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Honestly a Macbook is a waste of money. Dell XPS with linux is a much better, affordable, and usable device. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0N3z Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 17 minutes ago, inspired said: So Dell XPS with Linux will be more convinient one? yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspired Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 Thanks guys, I appreciate it. Now I'm think about Dell XPS 13 (lighweight, have a problem with my back) or New Dell Inspiron 7000 Gaming (lots of horsepower) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rkiver Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 Both are fine machines, and lots of horsepower, well if you need that sort of horsepower honestly building a machine for home to do the heavy lifting and getting an XPS 13 may be the best way to go, at least in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspired Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rkiver said: Both are fine machines, and lots of horsepower, well if you need that sort of horsepower honestly building a machine for home to do the heavy lifting and getting an XPS 13 may be the best way to go, at least in my opinion. Think the same :) I really wonder what's the specs of laptops that Darren and Snubs have. 'Cause there's pretty noticable difference in price between models with 8GB of RAM and models with 16GB of RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rkiver Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 I know that Shannon mentioned on a tekthing episode about....3-4 weeks ago the models they use. Best check there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inspired Posted February 28, 2017 Author Share Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) On 2/28/2017 at 0:36 PM, Rkiver said: I know that Shannon mentioned on a tekthing episode about....3-4 weeks ago the models they use. Best check there. Thank you, I'll check UPD: Couldn't find it :( Edited March 4, 2017 by inspired Update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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