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So guys! Looking at the MKV, what do you feel could be improved up on, in terms of hardware and software? What would you expect if the Hak5 team were to release a new generation Pineapple?

Here's what I'd want:

  • 1GB of flash OR to be able to boot directly from the SD card.
  • A radio that supported 5Ghz and still offered monitor mode and packet injection (duh) Price killer.
  • A better CPU. The current one is pretty laggy. An upgrade to a 1GHz core, should be good enough especially for heavy traffic
  • More RAM. I managed to easily eat up all the memory of my MKV. 256MB or 512MB should be enough.
  • An SD card slot that does not stick out from the edge of the case. Having it more flush, would be nice or have a door that covers it
  • Fully opensource. We could accomplish so much more if everyone could contribute. If it were me, I would've modified the kernel by now
  • More embedded drivers, such as support for more USB WiFi adapters and so forth
  • Faster network relay speeds

I was planning on modifying the web interface of the MKV but now I realise how limited I am in terms of space, sort of a burden imo. Looks like sym links all the way :D

What would you guys want?

Edit: Made a few changes to my bullet points, since I suppose we should be realistic about the pricing :)

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Many of the updates you're suggesting would raise the price considerably. I'm not sure if that's something Hak5 wants to do.

• A radio that supported 5Ghz and still offered monitor mode and packet injection (duh)

It would be nice to have a 5GHz radio builtin but you could always use a USB one (maybe this).

• A better CPU. The current one is pretty laggy. A dual core @ 1.7 Ghz, should be good enough especially for heavy traffic.

• More RAM. I managed to easily eat up all the memory of my MKV. 512MB or 1GB should be enough.

Again, a lot more money if it can even be done with the board being used.

• An SD card slot that does not stick out from the edge of the case. Having it more flush, would be nice.

I personally hate it when an SD card is flush with a case because it's difficult for me to get the card out (I bite my nails). I have a Mobius HD cam like that and it is a pain to get that little bastard out of there after a flight.

• More embedded drivers, such as support for more USB WiFi adapters and so forth.

I've been using my PAU06 Panda Wireless USB adapter for a while now without ever needing to install drivers. It supports master mode but I haven't tried it on the Pineapple, only on a RPi.

I'm down with the faster network speeds, even the faster processor and more RAM, but I think that may cost a lot more than you think to implement. AFAIK Hak5 developed the board for the Pineapple so to add these other components might mean a complete redo of all hardware. I'm sure they will upgrade as they see fit and honestly the Pineapple works well as it is.

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Many of the updates you're suggesting would raise the price considerably. I'm not sure if that's something Hak5 wants to do.

It would be nice to have a 5GHz radio builtin but you could always use a USB one (maybe this).

Again, a lot more money if it can even be done with the board being used.

I personally hate it when an SD card is flush with a case because it's difficult for me to get the card out (I bite my nails). I have a Mobius HD cam like that and it is a pain to get that little bastard out of there after a flight.

I've been using my PAU06 Panda Wireless USB adapter for a while now without ever needing to install drivers. It supports master mode but I haven't tried it on the Pineapple, only on a RPi.

I'm down with the faster network speeds, even the faster processor and more RAM, but I think that may cost a lot more than you think to implement. AFAIK Hak5 developed the board for the Pineapple so to add these other components might mean a complete redo of all hardware. I'm sure they will upgrade as they see fit and honestly the Pineapple works well as it is.

Yeah, the pricing is the main concern, I think. These days you can get an Android Smart Phone with 512MB RAM and a 1GHz CPU, for about $60 or less. Perhaps even 1GHz single core and 512mb would be a worthy upgrade without harming the price too much. As for WiFi, I have a NANO USB adapter but I cant use it as there's no drivers. I can't do anything about it because I don't have access to the kernel source code, which I personally believe is holding the MKV from progressing a bit.

The flush SD card solution... Hm. Maybe have a door that covers it, instead? That way it can be "flush" and still be easy to remove, assuming the door isn't a nightmare to open x3

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I don't think you understand that a major selling point for the pineapple is the fact that it costs $99...

Yeah... And... I know that Hak5 aims to provide affordable hardware but still... Even little things such as more storage and a bit more beefier CPU/RAM would still be a great improvement. My unit has froze on me, quite a few times. Look at the Raspberry Pi, for example. They managed to upgrade the specs of the CPU/RAM and still keep the original price.

I said "What I want" not "What I expect". Just sharing opinions :)

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in my opinion the entire web interface of the pineapple is total shit!!!

Soooo, just wondering...how would you change the interface? I think it's great and I don't have any issues while using it. Not trying to be rude, but If you have ideas then present them otherwise saying it's "total shit" is just whining.

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not whining just expressing opinion comrade. i just think a more conventional web page interface style like the ones in almost every router in the world would be more effective.

much of the current interface doesn't display properly in a browser, missing scroll bars, blocked or unnavigable overlapping parts of pages etc.

couple suggestions.

making the small tiles more sizes than they are currently would be a big improvement. many of them could be a quarter the size and do the same job while others could be double the size and display everything they need without a big tile. collapsed tiles could be tabs in a menu bar or a menu tile instead of clutter on the bottom of the screen which interferes with the rest of the interface.

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I would suggest to implement an easy track-a-MAC function.

I noted that there is already a track function that triggers a script, but it could be more user friendly.

An example could be:
Enter the mac of e.g. aunt frieda ( ;D ), (table with mac-to-name), and the pineapple shows up a list with persons/devices in range (or not).

this would be very handy :-)

greets from goold old germany

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