UnKn0wnBooof Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) So guys! Looking at the MKV, what do you feel could be improved up on, in terms of hardware and software? What would you expect if the Hak5 team were to release a new generation Pineapple? Here's what I'd want: 1GB of flash OR to be able to boot directly from the SD card. A radio that supported 5Ghz and still offered monitor mode and packet injection (duh) Price killer. A better CPU. The current one is pretty laggy. An upgrade to a 1GHz core, should be good enough especially for heavy traffic More RAM. I managed to easily eat up all the memory of my MKV. 256MB or 512MB should be enough. An SD card slot that does not stick out from the edge of the case. Having it more flush, would be nice or have a door that covers it Fully opensource. We could accomplish so much more if everyone could contribute. If it were me, I would've modified the kernel by now More embedded drivers, such as support for more USB WiFi adapters and so forth Faster network relay speeds I was planning on modifying the web interface of the MKV but now I realise how limited I am in terms of space, sort of a burden imo. Looks like sym links all the way :D What would you guys want? Edit: Made a few changes to my bullet points, since I suppose we should be realistic about the pricing :) Edited August 31, 2015 by Lavanoid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sud0nick Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) Many of the updates you're suggesting would raise the price considerably. I'm not sure if that's something Hak5 wants to do. • A radio that supported 5Ghz and still offered monitor mode and packet injection (duh) It would be nice to have a 5GHz radio builtin but you could always use a USB one (maybe this). • A better CPU. The current one is pretty laggy. A dual core @ 1.7 Ghz, should be good enough especially for heavy traffic. • More RAM. I managed to easily eat up all the memory of my MKV. 512MB or 1GB should be enough. Again, a lot more money if it can even be done with the board being used. • An SD card slot that does not stick out from the edge of the case. Having it more flush, would be nice. I personally hate it when an SD card is flush with a case because it's difficult for me to get the card out (I bite my nails). I have a Mobius HD cam like that and it is a pain to get that little bastard out of there after a flight. • More embedded drivers, such as support for more USB WiFi adapters and so forth. I've been using my PAU06 Panda Wireless USB adapter for a while now without ever needing to install drivers. It supports master mode but I haven't tried it on the Pineapple, only on a RPi. I'm down with the faster network speeds, even the faster processor and more RAM, but I think that may cost a lot more than you think to implement. AFAIK Hak5 developed the board for the Pineapple so to add these other components might mean a complete redo of all hardware. I'm sure they will upgrade as they see fit and honestly the Pineapple works well as it is. Edited August 30, 2015 by sud0nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxtrot Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I don't think you understand that a major selling point for the pineapple is the fact that it costs $99... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnKn0wnBooof Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 Many of the updates you're suggesting would raise the price considerably. I'm not sure if that's something Hak5 wants to do. It would be nice to have a 5GHz radio builtin but you could always use a USB one (maybe this). Again, a lot more money if it can even be done with the board being used. I personally hate it when an SD card is flush with a case because it's difficult for me to get the card out (I bite my nails). I have a Mobius HD cam like that and it is a pain to get that little bastard out of there after a flight. I've been using my PAU06 Panda Wireless USB adapter for a while now without ever needing to install drivers. It supports master mode but I haven't tried it on the Pineapple, only on a RPi. I'm down with the faster network speeds, even the faster processor and more RAM, but I think that may cost a lot more than you think to implement. AFAIK Hak5 developed the board for the Pineapple so to add these other components might mean a complete redo of all hardware. I'm sure they will upgrade as they see fit and honestly the Pineapple works well as it is. Yeah, the pricing is the main concern, I think. These days you can get an Android Smart Phone with 512MB RAM and a 1GHz CPU, for about $60 or less. Perhaps even 1GHz single core and 512mb would be a worthy upgrade without harming the price too much. As for WiFi, I have a NANO USB adapter but I cant use it as there's no drivers. I can't do anything about it because I don't have access to the kernel source code, which I personally believe is holding the MKV from progressing a bit. The flush SD card solution... Hm. Maybe have a door that covers it, instead? That way it can be "flush" and still be easy to remove, assuming the door isn't a nightmare to open x3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnKn0wnBooof Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 I don't think you understand that a major selling point for the pineapple is the fact that it costs $99... Yeah... And... I know that Hak5 aims to provide affordable hardware but still... Even little things such as more storage and a bit more beefier CPU/RAM would still be a great improvement. My unit has froze on me, quite a few times. Look at the Raspberry Pi, for example. They managed to upgrade the specs of the CPU/RAM and still keep the original price. I said "What I want" not "What I expect". Just sharing opinions :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjdoe Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Working MITM proxy ... ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairbag Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 router/firewall gui or infusion wit port forwarding etc. in my opinion the entire web interface of the pineapple is total shit!!! bluetooth dynamic dns antivirus addblocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sud0nick Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 (edited) in my opinion the entire web interface of the pineapple is total shit!!! Soooo, just wondering...how would you change the interface? I think it's great and I don't have any issues while using it. Not trying to be rude, but If you have ideas then present them otherwise saying it's "total shit" is just whining. Edited September 1, 2015 by sud0nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairbag Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 not whining just expressing opinion comrade. i just think a more conventional web page interface style like the ones in almost every router in the world would be more effective. much of the current interface doesn't display properly in a browser, missing scroll bars, blocked or unnavigable overlapping parts of pages etc. couple suggestions. making the small tiles more sizes than they are currently would be a big improvement. many of them could be a quarter the size and do the same job while others could be double the size and display everything they need without a big tile. collapsed tiles could be tabs in a menu bar or a menu tile instead of clutter on the bottom of the screen which interferes with the rest of the interface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellocomrades Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 Maybe there could be two versions with one a little more expensive around $149-$249 that has more robust hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karit Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Could you make the Pineapple a Hat for a Raspberry Pi? Basically have the radios on the Hat. Leave the CPU etc to the Pi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizmo80 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I would suggest to implement an easy track-a-MAC function. I noted that there is already a track function that triggers a script, but it could be more user friendly. An example could be:Enter the mac of e.g. aunt frieda ( ;D ), (table with mac-to-name), and the pineapple shows up a list with persons/devices in range (or not). this would be very handy :-) greets from goold old germany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yabasoya Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Perhaps the new one shouldn't have any wifi built in at all. Just 2 slots to fit these: It would make it so easy to customise. Edited September 22, 2015 by yabasoya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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