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  • Pineapple Hardware Version: Mark IV

Pineapple Software Version: 2.8.0

OS used to connect to the pineapple: Macintosh/Linux

Network layout of how your setup is connected: Ethernet from WAN/LAN to computer

All the tools/options that are running on the pineapple when the issue happened:

Ping results from computer to pineapple: N/A

Is the problem repeatable: Yes

Steps taken which created the problem: Out of box

Error Messages: N/A

Log file information: Sometimes when I goto "cd /dev" and then "ls" instead of seeing sda1 and sda2, I see something like sda and sg0, and sometimes the USB won't even show up anywhere.

Anything else that was attempted to 'fix' the problem: Well if I plug the Pineapple into the wall it solves the problem, so it has to be a power problem.

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Yah the pineapple really wants 12v instead of 5v. I also have had the same problems with my sandisk cruzer. I went out and bought a 10 dollar usb drive called a tuff n go by Verbatim, my pineapple works fine running from 5v. But I can confirm that my sandisk will work if the Wifi Pineapple is plugged into 12v.

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Yah the pineapple really wants 12v instead of 5v. I also have had the same problems with my sandisk cruzer. I went out and bought a 10 dollar usb drive called a tuff n go by Verbatim, my pineapple works fine running from 5v. But I can confirm that my sandisk will work if the Wifi Pineapple is plugged into 12v.

So they give you a USB that won't work from a USB powered plug? :/

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Well yes and no.

My sandisk cruzer will work if I plug it into the pineapple after it boots running from 5v.

This device is technically supposed to be powered from 12v. Just like with many devices if you don't give the required voltage problems can occur.

Although I have read in many posts, that several people have had no issues with their sandisk running from the 5v provided by usb.

I'm sure it in some cases it could be a users hardware that is causing problems (does your laptop or desktop usb port provide enough voltage and amperage to power the device correctly)

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Well yes and no.

My sandisk cruzer will work if I plug it into the pineapple after it boots running from 5v.

This device is technically supposed to be powered from 12v. Just like with many devices if you don't give the required voltage problems can occur.

Although I have read in many posts, that several people have had no issues with their sandisk running from the 5v provided by usb.

So there has to be a difference between mine and yours? Right? How can I get it to work?

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Well there are many variables...

Read through this and see if anything listed can help with your problem.

When you said "this" do you mean the forums? If so I already have... Nothing

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When you said "this" do you mean the forums? If so I already have... Nothing

Ooops sorry forgot to post this..

http://forums.hak5.org/index.php?/topic/29244-trouble-getting-any-of-the-usbs-to-work-with-wifi-pineapple-mark-iv/

http://forums.hak5.org/index.php?/topic/29319-usb-power-cable-not-enough-for-usb-sandisk/?hl=%2Busb+%2Bproblems#entry222292

http://forums.hak5.org/index.php?/topic/27638-pineapple-wifi-crashreboot-on-mass-data/?hl=%2Busb+%2Bproblems#entry221133

http://forums.hak5.org/index.php?/topic/28956-cant-get-usb-expansion-to-work-help/?hl=%2Busb+%2Bproblems#entry219930

Have you tried plugging your pineapple into different computer usb ports to see if its a particular problem with your current setup?

and if that doesn't work you can try using a different usb drive while powered with 5v and see if that will fix your problem.

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Yep most of my USB drives do :/

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Yep most of my USB drives do :/

root@BitCubeTV:~# hwinfo --usb

03: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_1_0000_00_1a_0_if0

Unique ID: uIhY.MxUuepIFPaE

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.0/usb3/3-0:1.0

SysFS BusID: 3-0:1.0

Hardware Class: hub

Model: "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd UHCI Host Controller"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x1d6b "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd"

Device: usb 0x0001 "UHCI Host Controller"

Revision: "3.07"

Serial ID: "0000:00:1a.0"

Driver: "hub"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 12 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v1D6Bp0001d0307dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00in00"

Driver Info #0:

Driver Status: usbcore is active

Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usbcore"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

04: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_1_0000_00_1a_1_if0

Unique ID: zPk0.7gZT0a5zLs5

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.1/usb4/4-0:1.0

SysFS BusID: 4-0:1.0

Hardware Class: hub

Model: "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd UHCI Host Controller"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x1d6b "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd"

Device: usb 0x0001 "UHCI Host Controller"

Revision: "3.07"

Serial ID: "0000:00:1a.1"

Driver: "hub"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 12 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v1D6Bp0001d0307dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00in00"

Driver Info #0:

Driver Status: usbcore is active

Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usbcore"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

05: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_1_0000_00_1d_0_if0

Unique ID: 2XnU.v+N+B0xY+P6

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.0/usb5/5-0:1.0

SysFS BusID: 5-0:1.0

Hardware Class: hub

Model: "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd UHCI Host Controller"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x1d6b "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd"

Device: usb 0x0001 "UHCI Host Controller"

Revision: "3.07"

Serial ID: "0000:00:1d.0"

Driver: "hub"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 12 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v1D6Bp0001d0307dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00in00"

Driver Info #0:

Driver Status: usbcore is active

Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usbcore"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

06: USB 00.0: 0000 Unclassified device

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_b97_7772_noserial_if0

Unique ID: WOTD.11Vm43DuuL2

Parent ID: datd.ZrTiaNBpvAA

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb7/7-1/7-1.2/7-1.2:1.0

SysFS BusID: 7-1.2:1.0

Hardware Class: unknown

Model: "O2 Micro O2Micro CCID SC Reader"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x0b97 "O2 Micro, Inc."

Device: usb 0x7772 "O2Micro CCID SC Reader"

Revision: "1.10"

Driver: "usbfs"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 12 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v0B97p7772d0110dc00dsc00dp00ic0Bisc00ip00in00"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

Attached to: #9 (Hub)

07: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_1_0000_00_1d_1_if0

Unique ID: 7eqy.gkSaZmjGyhD

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb6/6-0:1.0

SysFS BusID: 6-0:1.0

Hardware Class: hub

Model: "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd UHCI Host Controller"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x1d6b "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd"

Device: usb 0x0001 "UHCI Host Controller"

Revision: "3.07"

Serial ID: "0000:00:1d.1"

Driver: "hub"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 12 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v1D6Bp0001d0307dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00in00"

Driver Info #0:

Driver Status: usbcore is active

Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usbcore"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

08: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_1_0000_00_1d_2_if0

Unique ID: BSFT.RTX9xWW_uz4

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb7/7-0:1.0

SysFS BusID: 7-0:1.0

Hardware Class: hub

Model: "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd UHCI Host Controller"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x1d6b "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae uhci_hcd"

Device: usb 0x0001 "UHCI Host Controller"

Revision: "3.07"

Serial ID: "0000:00:1d.2"

Driver: "hub"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 12 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v1D6Bp0001d0307dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00in00"

Driver Info #0:

Driver Status: usbcore is active

Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usbcore"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

09: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_b97_7761_noserial_if0

Unique ID: datd.ZrTiaNBpvAA

Parent ID: BSFT.RTX9xWW_uz4

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb7/7-1/7-1:1.0

SysFS BusID: 7-1:1.0

Hardware Class: hub

Model: "O2 Micro Hub"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x0b97 "O2 Micro, Inc."

Device: usb 0x7761

Revision: "1.10"

Driver: "hub"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 12 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v0B97p7761d0110dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00in00"

Driver Info #0:

Driver Status: usbcore is active

Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usbcore"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

Attached to: #8 (Hub)

10: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_2_0000_00_1a_7_if0

Unique ID: k4bc.cO89g+iefn1

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.7/usb1/1-0:1.0

SysFS BusID: 1-0:1.0

Hardware Class: hub

Model: "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae ehci_hcd EHCI Host Controller"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x1d6b "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae ehci_hcd"

Device: usb 0x0002 "EHCI Host Controller"

Revision: "3.07"

Serial ID: "0000:00:1a.7"

Driver: "hub"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 480 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v1D6Bp0002d0307dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00in00"

Driver Info #0:

Driver Status: usbcore is active

Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usbcore"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

11: USB 00.0: 10a00 Hub

[Created at usb.122]

UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_1d6b_2_0000_00_1d_7_if0

Unique ID: pBe4.9T1GDCLyFd9

SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-0:1.0

SysFS BusID: 2-0:1.0

Hardware Class: hub

Model: "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae ehci_hcd EHCI Host Controller"

Hotplug: USB

Vendor: usb 0x1d6b "Linux 3.7-trunk-686-pae ehci_hcd"

Device: usb 0x0002 "EHCI Host Controller"

Revision: "3.07"

Serial ID: "0000:00:1d.7"

Driver: "hub"

Driver Modules: "usbcore"

Speed: 480 Mbps

Module Alias: "usb:v1D6Bp0002d0307dc09dsc00dp00ic09isc00ip00in00"

Driver Info #0:

Driver Status: usbcore is active

Driver Activation Cmd: "modprobe usbcore"

Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown

root@BitCubeTV:~# lsusb -v -t

/: Bus 07.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M

|__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=hub, Driver=hub/4p, 12M

|__ Port 2: Dev 3, If 0, Class=scard, Driver=usbfs, 12M

/: Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M

/: Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M

/: Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M

/: Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=uhci_hcd/2p, 12M

/: Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci_hcd/6p, 480M

/: Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=ehci_hcd/4p, 480M

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I have an 8G Sandisk I purchased and it had power issues when running on battery/USB power. I don't know if it has anything to do with the size but I imagine the bigger the storage the more power it takes. I've had great luck with 4gig USB drives running just fine off of the USB power source. Specifically this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820154027

It's a LaCie MosKeyto...

Also a smaller 2Gig pico drive works but I wanted more storage space for logs as well as Infusion expansion.

Good luck.

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I have an 8G Sandisk I purchased and it had power issues when running on battery/USB power. I don't know if it has anything to do with the size but I imagine the bigger the storage the more power it takes. I've had great luck with 4gig USB drives running just fine off of the USB power source. Specifically this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820154027

It's a LaCie MosKeyto...

Also a smaller 2Gig pico drive works but I wanted more storage space for logs as well as Infusion expansion.

Good luck.

Thanks sugarat :D

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