kuroigetsushinde Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) I can issue enough invites to get people accounts at riseup.net; if interested pm me... sounds good im in, server locations? p.s: thanks for the instant messenger tip , for really anonymous stuff i use torchat , and for everything else as youve mentioned pidgin and otr look nice , ive used msn messenger plus and chatx plugin for things that where nobodys buisness until now , i guess im gona give pidgin a try then if its better ;), btw can you use it with riseup accounts? of course someone has to confirm the server locations before i go to riseup Edited February 4, 2012 by kuroigetsushinde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I look at it from a different perspective. I don't want companies crawling my content to advertise to me, or creating a profile about my behaviour. I also don't want my e-mail provider to know where I log in from, or have a record of that. I get lazy and don't always TOR / VPN / SSH -D / etc, so I like services like riseup.net who don't keep records. They also strip header info. People in our circles should use adium / pidgin and stick to OTR. I trust riseup.net about as much as I would trust HideMyAss. Lets face it. Unless you roll your own solution, you are at the mercy of the service you use, no matter who it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroigetsushinde Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) well that would be all nice and good if wed get to know the server locations then maybe wed bed able to put trust in the mentioned provider ;) p.s: hidemyass what an excellent example shouldve mentioned hushmail too ... Edited February 4, 2012 by kuroigetsushinde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggler Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Problem with a "roll your own", is many people aren't competent enough to setup a server properly. Especially to disable all logs + enable encryption + keep box secure by configuring everything correctly. If there was a server ISO that I could install which was pre-configured to be a riseup.net functionality clone but hosted by myself, and all I would need to do is forward the correct domain info, I would be doing that in a heartbeat.... FYI, Moxie M, endorses the guys and the riseup.net project. I regard his comments and recommendations highly. I wish riseup.net would move their colo from NY and Seattle to some offshore island... I like riseup.net more for their 3mbit up/down OpenVPN that you get with an account. Very secure (not anonymous), but they don't keep logs. Don't use it to DL. It was said before, email is shit and even if you do roll your own solution and are secure the other parties likely will not be. Thats why I like OTR over anything ATM. There is also a new service which looks interesting at pidder.com (Germans always build the coolest stuff :) I trust riseup.net about as much as I would trust HideMyAss. Lets face it. Unless you roll your own solution, you are at the mercy of the service you use, no matter who it is. Edited February 4, 2012 by diggler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuroigetsushinde Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) same i was thinking , theres alot of users out there that arent exactly IT specialists , and would love something like that mentioned iso to setup theyre own secure email server B) p.s: we need something like riseup but with offshore servers ...difficult task indeed Edited February 4, 2012 by kuroigetsushinde Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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