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LOl, I need to lower my standards to what I think is a "beautiful" girl. I've always gone after these hot ass girls, and occasionally it worked but more often than not, I get denied which really sucks. Now I'm kinda realizing that if I want any meaningful relationship with a girl, I need to lower my standards.

btw..did I say being denied sucks? :cry:

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I'll take this as a necessary 'venting' post and you're asking for help in terms of relationships. Well, because this is a forum dominated mostly by men who are in the early to mid teens and have never had a date for any school function, it may not be the best place to ask. However, there are a few happily-married people here who could help. I'm not one of those but I do have a few tips for those on the prowl for a female.

1) Learn to not always go for the extremely beautiful ones. They're used to being bombarded by men all the time and have learned to just shut them out because of this. Therefore, being a geek, your chances are slim to none with these type of women.

2) Beauty is not always on the outside. I've have met many women in my short time on this earth (I'm only 19) that I've considered to be some of the most amazing girls I've ever had the honor of meeting. And, most of which would not be considered "hott" or "extremely beautiful". Nonetheless they are amazing girls who I could spend all day with because they're down to earth and not on a pedestal like the "hott" girls are. Therefore worth your time and effort.

3) Look for the quiet, shy girls in the corner. This is probably the most important piece of advice I could give any guy looking for someone to spend time with. The girls that many guys in high school consider "geeky" or quiet is just our cup of tea. Approaching this kind of girl will work 9 times out of 10 and here's why: Simply taking the time to sit down and talk with them (without pulling out some cheesy pick-up lines of course - just talk normally to them) will flatter them and they'll remember who you are after you leave. They've never really had the experience of a guy talking to them and asking them questions. Needless to say, brownie points.

4) And because I have to go to class in a few minutes, my last piece of advice: Do NOT approach a girl and immeadly go for her number or ask her if she wants to go back to your place or car. You'll be lucky not to get slapped or kicked out of where ever you are. Be polite, ask her questions, let her talk about herself and mentally take notes of what she's talking about and find common interests - not matter how small. One of my favorite lines for this is, "Really? That's so/increadibly interesting, tell me more." Saying that in a comfortable tone will continue the conversation for at least another 20 minutes. At the end of the night and if you two have carried on a good conversation, give her YOUR phone number and tell her that you'd like to talk again sometime and if she feels the same, have her give you a call. This puts the ball in her court and if she felt that the night went well, she will call you back. If she doesn't then it probably wouldn't work out anyway. Also, give her at least a 1/2 week to call you back, women can be shaky on calling men back.

There's mroe but I have to run, good luck.

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Hears my advice, emotional attachments are for the weak , there is only one person you can count on and that’s yourself, so I recommend you have friends that are girls and you have girls that you fuck and keep it like that until you're in your mid to late twenties.

The trick is, if you are of drinking age or look like you are, go to a pub/club/bar, an hour before it closes down for the night and look for the girl that is on her own and all her friend are either of talking to a guy/passed out/ gone home with a guy, then go to the bar and order yourself a drink and look over at the girl and when see looks back, smile at her and give her a nod of the head and finish your drink (don’t rush it), then slowly walk over and introduce yourself (if she doesn’t come over to you) and buy her a drink and have a conversation and make sure you listen to what she has to say (even know you don’t give a shit). When closing time comes ask her if she wants a lift home and 9 out of 10 times she will ask you in.

If you’re really looking for a girlfriend go for the geeks as there less work and easier to pick up. You can usually talk geeks into do more interesting things, which is one of the plusses.

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Pfft, nonsense.. I just watched Miami Vice and got a whole new understanding of women. Just do it like Detective James 'Sonny' Crockett:

  • Bring back her contraband (all cocaine)
  • Say you did it for free
  • Ask her for a drink anyway
  • Drive her in a speedboat to some nice cocktail bar
  • Get her drunk
  • Boom, you got her!

Well, now I just need such a drug pushing girl... (Funny movie: 1/3 porn, 1/3 gunfight, 1/3 wtf)

Nah, for real.. Yes, to have a long term relationship you should really find a girl which has something you like about her except of her apperance ;-) Also, there are different places to find different girls, of course. Also, I support armadaender's 4th point. If you want a long term relationship: be cautious and be patient.

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LOl, I need to lower my standards to what I think is a "beautiful" girl. I've always gone after these hot ass girls, and occasionally it worked but more often than not, I get denied which really sucks. Now I'm kinda realizing that if I want any meaningful relationship with a girl, I need to lower my standards.

btw..did I say being denied sucks? Crying or Very sad

I'm sorry but I think you should get a life and stop being such a bastard.

Stop treating girls as trophy's and objects.

You might have some luck then but I doubt you'll be able to do anything about being such a pig.

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LOl, I need to lower my standards to what I think is a "beautiful" girl. I've always gone after these hot ass girls, and occasionally it worked but more often than not, I get denied which really sucks. Now I'm kinda realizing that if I want any meaningful relationship with a girl, I need to lower my standards.

btw..did I say being denied sucks? Crying or Very sad

I'm sorry but I think you should get a life and stop being such a bastard.

Stop treating girls as trophy's and objects.

You might have some luck then but I doubt you'll be able to do anything about being such a pig.

I'm sorry but I think you need to get to know me better before you start accusing me of such things. I deeply respect and value women. I appreciate women and their true inner beauty. To me, women are the most precious and beautiful beings in the world. Most of them are sweethearts, caring, kind, funny, gentle and I love being around them and being with them. Most of them are seriously selfless. I really don't know any selfish women, they are always going out of their way to make us happy.

I have no problems spoiling women and going out of my way to make them happy.

I just happen to fall for the wrong chick a bit too much.

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If you were actually like you just said you were then you wouldn't have created a thread about this or even had this problem.

I'm sorry but your the type of person that gives men a bad name.

And your the type of guy that makes women hate men.

And the only thing I said on top was that I need to lower my standards with girls. And that I had just gotten denied when I asked a beautiful girl out. I didn't say anything of what I think of women in the first post.

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The type of woman you go for depends on your looks and personality. I personally go for both in a woman, and I'll go without a girlfriend for as long as it takes to find someone who I think satisfies both those criterion on a personal level. For example, an example of a lady I would find attractive personally is one between size 8 and 10 generally (I don't like larger ladies), long dark hair, and a pretty face :). Such as:

www.myspace.com/82388131 (girl I'll be dating if she comes over to the uk)

or

http://www.flickr.com/photos/leetabix/202820854/ (girl I've been dating recently)

I used to be very very sensitive when it came to women, I used to not bother hitting on most women for fear of getting rejeted, as it'd send me in a fit of depression (very dire I know). This was about 3 years ago-since then I have become more confident through experience. That's about all I have to say really-experience is the best system for learning how to treat women in a dating situation, and how to find women that suit you while sticking to your standards. I'm pretty lucky to have had a massive confidence boost in the sense of me dating a model and a pornstar in my time, so that has something to do with it too I would imagine.

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I should listen to armadaender , metatron, and aardwolf more closely! :-)

Um, maybe so. But most of what I say is either 1. Legitimate and significant or 2. pointless and moronic.

Therefore be careful in your decisions to follow certain things. :twisted:

But, in terms of the topic at hand, what I say comes from either personal experience or observation. I'm always the guy at the bar studying female social habits and those of sucessful men who's picking up the women. Having metrosexual friends helped alot in learning how to pick-up women.

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I should listen to armadaender , metatron, and aardwolf more closely! :-)

Um, maybe so. But most of what I say is either 1. Legitimate and significant or 2. pointless and moronic.

Therefore be careful in your decisions to follow certain things. :twisted:

But, in terms of the topic at hand, what I say comes from either personal experience or observation. I'm always the guy at the bar studying female social habits and those of sucessful men who's picking up the women. Having metrosexual friends helped alot in learning how to pick-up women.

Ah yes, the mention of metrosexuality brings me to mention dressing. Dress fashionably and correctly, women pay a lot of attention to things like a guy's shoes for example. Some are less shallow and don't, but it's good to be prepared regardless :). Also, personal hygeine and appropriate manners are a must-clean teeth before a date when you land one, use a nice aftershave, keep your nails trimmed but a decent length, don't pick your nose on a date etc.

I've yet to read it, but I have a copy of 'The Game' by Neil Strauss, which deals with taking advantage of women's subconscious when trying to gauge whether a woman is interested in you, what to say, when to say it. Basically, social psychology in a 'picking up women' situation :). Much like the likes of Derren Brown used to do before he became famous ;).

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I'm always the guy at the bar studying female social habits and those of sucessful men who's picking up the women.

Steve Irwin, is that you?!?

I'm going to hell for that one, right? :twisted:

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I've read alll the posts and I get the idea that you guys don't think I have any clue on how to pick up women. I've had a few girlfriends in the past, I know how to pick up women. It's just sometimes, I go for the ones that are out of my league without noticing it till afterwards. No, I'm not saying I'm a player; I am a shy guy but I'm not helpless either.

My last girlfriend broke up with me because she found out I am a pothead and she actually caught me smoking a joint with one of my friends.

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