From Prey To Predator Hostgator.com

[skraps]

I used to be a employee at the fail of a company hostgator. The time working there was ok, the catered food was pretty good.

Some days we ate chinese, pizza, sandwiches etc. The pay was crap for linux administrators. Security was lax, you would find

RF ID badges laying in the parking lot. Employees would let you ghost your way into the building. There was even a story from

another past employee that a homeless man made his way onto the second floor where the Linux administrators worked. Every

linux administrator has root access to the servers including the billing systems, time, and HR systems. Also they hire you on as

a Linux admin they even tell you answering phones is rare. Then they start forcing you to answer phones and harass the people

who do not answer the phones and give them hard times.

Before I quit I was being harassed for not being comfortable answering phones by my supervisors.

http://www.mediafire.com/?7h77c92vtb5jiah - linux admins don't answer phones ogg

http://www.mediafire.com/?avmf6c8twft1phi - linux admins don't answer phones mp3

Well after I quit some really bad happened to me and I was forced to leave Houston,TX. My home state. The whole story is here

along with emails from Brent where he wanted to bribe me to shut me up or have me ask for money so he could discredit the

whole thing as a extortion type thing.

http://www.mediafire.com/?iby5690lsjo73ey – Tried convincing me I was crazazy and asked if there was anything he could do

for me.

You can find that on neworder.box.sk in the off topic section of the forums.

http://neworder.box.sk/showthread.php/41228-Hidden-Internet-Monopoly-and-Internet-Blue-Collar-Thug-Gang-pt1

How do we do this and still keep our white and grey hats on from a 1000 miles away? We attack the “human resources”. The

employees!

First things first , lets dig up some dirt on the company. Hostgator dot com is a webhosting company. Well what kinda dirt can

we get. After being banned from multiple webhosting forums. I resorted to Linkedin.com!!! I went and searched for every

employee related to hostgator. Started looking thru their profiles. Then noticed one thing a lot of them had second jobs as

owners/CEOs of other companies related to webhosting, webhosting forums, review sites, porn sites etc. One even owned a

food delivery service called “Muchiez!!”, Total stoner roflmao, This guy is a genuis for making a company called stoners

especially with the NORML movement and marijuana law reforms throughout the USA. Also from the incident that happened to

me in January. I knew that the Oxley family also had other ties. Pestbear.com – a pest exterminating company from that

incident. I also started digging thru their blog. Well, well, well, Brent had reached out to the employees about business ideas

and investments!!!!!! Ah Ha!! Monopoly!!!!! Even though this probly means for me do not pass go , do not collect 200$, strait to

a federal pen.

Ok when writing something like this you never want to state facts that are not true here in the USA. So we make assumptions,

and let the pros take care of the rest(the real media reporter) If you are try to get your own story heard include it in the

assumed story! So when they take you to court for slander it forces them to bring attention to your story as in my case!

What happened to me was I was at a concert and some sort of drug was dumped on my head. What did I find on linkedin? A

frikkin chemist!!! OFYLTA!! . A CEO of review world, a content curator for webhostingtalk. Webhosting talk is the most popular

webhosting community forum on the net. Content curators are the people responsible for finding the most interesting and best

subjects to talk about a certain subject. In this case Hostgator has a “content curator” on the payroll. I wonder why. Well during

my hosthater campaign I was banned from posting anything anti-hostgator. LOL , I wonder why this happened.

Then I started trying to spread the word. Well I guess hostgator and their army of techs already knew this was my next step so I

constantly being censored on every forum I posted too. So I then I started looking at their site some more and noticed that they

let anyone talk to their chat techs. I started logging into their chat system and posed as news reporters(random names) from

different organizations and started giving them information about the article I wrote and asking them what was HG(hostgators)

stance on all these claims. People talk. So in order to find someone that knows or knew about this I needed these people to talk

in the offices and outside the offices about it. Possibly to find the ones that knew what was going on but just to scared to talk.

The next step was the ticket system. The ticket system just consists of sending a ticket to support@hostgator.com , verify you

human by clicking a link. Now your support request is in the queue! You go toyota! Well I started sending in emails pointing

back to my previous article and telling the employees what other companies do for their employees. How they should be getting

raises for being so loyal and how Rackspace even pays 100% for their employees health insurance. On one of my campaigns to

the third shift crew, everyone sent the emails to management instead of sending them to the void. Hell if they make tons of

millions per year, why shouldn't they take better care of their employees. Spend the money they used to put the hostgator logo

on a UFC fighters bum to help pay for a dental plans of the Houston office. Then you goto http://tickets.hostgator.com and type

in your email address you used to send a message, and any password. When the password fails, click the link for a new

password. And now you have access to their ticket system webfront. I was just sending in emails strait to the queue but they

started blocking my address. So I resorted to the webfront. The ticket system works on first come first serve. I noticed as my

tickets were being submitted they were immediately being put on hold or sent to “the void of the internet” this is the equivalent

of the recycle bin for windows users or /dev/null for us linux users. So this only means management was blocking my messages

from reaching the employees. Hmmmmmm..... CURL!!! The ticket system used no type of captcha. So Lets write a small script

in bash to login and submit tickets via curl. So then I wrote a small script that spawned 25 instances of a script that sent 20-30

tickets into the queue. It was a total fail script and was a hack job. I was so nervous writing it. I was shaking I was so nervous

thinking of the consequences. But no one said I couldn't. I had been communicating with Brent telling him what I was doing and

he never responded telling me to stop.

http://www.mediafire.com/?fbkd85sdneeo7eq - adding captcha to the ticket system

http://www.mediafire.com/?9pt0cccaf16pqvf - other ways to fix problems like these

http://www.mediafire.com/?mqs8v7f4qfctxst - importance of these fixes

So it was in no means harassment. If it was harassment then the owner would have said stop... right??? So next thing you know

Sunday October the second, that evening I sent 400+ messages into the queue. Cock block that management. Well I tried

again during peak on monday. They had someone on standby waiting this time to block my IP address from logging in and

submitting tickets. I got 40 tickets in. They must have wrote a script because as soon I sent them in they were immediately put

on hold. Enuff with this one move on to the next plan of action!

The phone system. I was sitting in Panera Bread and decided to call HR. I got ahold of Casey and asked for information

regarding “Jackie Craig Sparks” She transferred me to another man in management.

man responded "I need to verify this call before I send you everything I know about a employee"

me: "Why do you need to verify the authenticy of this call? Why would your answer change for a employment

verification call"

There was a little more said and I told him what he was doing was illegal and hung up the call.

Well I decided to try to talk to my fellow ex-coworkers while doing so, the staff leaked the supervisors extensions. The

supervisors desk was 1002. By knowing that I could sit there and go thru all the 1000 extensions to find out the routing of their

asterix system then possibly find all the different offices and people inside the offices, then possibly find my way into a

configuration menu to possibly route calls, listen to phone calls etc. Very dangerous.

http://www.mediafire.com/?64301vtwaeuweb4 - leaking extensions ogg

http://www.mediafire.com/?2bbb49qux7c4i2d - leaking extensions mp3

During one of the phonecalls they even leaked the launch of their Dallas office.!!

They even leaked times their employees where at work. This could be harmfull to their employees. If a aggressor wanted to

know if a employee was at work he could use this information to stalk and follow the employee from work back to his home. This

is dangerous to the employees health.

http://www.mediafire.com/?lo1cliridrd83lq - employee working ogg

http://www.mediafire.com/?avmf6c8twft1phi - employee working mp3

http://www.mediafire.com/?mll7mcoqylq75ba – email to Brent telling him about all this.

Well at this point There where no other avenues to exhaust without crossing legal boundaries and taking off my white hat and

grey hat. From prey to predator. Thanks hostgator.

Originally posted on neworder.box.sk - moved here after database became mysteriously corrupted http://www.mediafire.com/?70409lgckfu51ec

http://www.mediafire.com/?k28c6lj26vog6v2 - 400 message push into the ticket queue

http://www.mediafire.com/?ba8ojhxpcub55pl - ticket system message

http://www.mediafire.com/?9sa5fqwiga4l02c - screenshot where they sent the messages to management

http://www.mediafire.com/?va63ic9hpidy1xx - email to brent abou

http://www.mediafire.com/?0ptia2d1pvipa19 - ticket system fixes

http://www.mediafire.com/?mwnk2mgy7ujf5h9 - importance of ticket system fixes

http://www.mediafire.com/?zrv7jvd683fk5fu - ticket system fix with captcha

I'm not against capitalism, I'm against corporate greed.

[bobbyb1980]

Haha keep fightin' the good fight man

[buffy]

I would suggest that many of the above actions in conjunction with your admitted dislike for the company would appear to any judge as hostile.

I have worked for companies that I didn't like before, and Ieft got another job and carried on. I think if you carry on like this you will get your self into trouble.

[skraps]

I would suggest that many of the above actions in conjunction with your admitted dislike for the company would appear to any judge as hostile.

I have worked for companies that I didn't like before, and Ieft got another job and carried on. I think if you carry on like this you will get your self into trouble.

Evertime I tried getting another job, they look up my social security number and see my past employers then they go off and run their mouths, I admit maybe 50% is true and the other stuff is BS. I got tired of it and started running mine. Apparently they contacted Achohosting and told them they fired me and who knows what else.

Achohosting claims Hostgator fired him on linkedin - http://www.mediafire.com/?8ewkxuuk1m1py6x

Email where I gave my 2 weeks notice - http://www.mediafire.com/?4aijaqaedijb8yg

I only brought this here because my normal posting forum went down and I was worried about my posts disappearing. It's kinda hard to get a job when people say they fired you. Plus who knows what else. But I have a good idea of what else, from what they beat around the bush about. I just can't prove it. I'v been wanting these people to take me to court. Brent(owner of hostgator) even tried bribing me. When that didn't work he tried threating legal action with false claims. Then when I urged him todo it so I can get my subpenas for all the records to prove everything true he backed out of that also.

[digip]

I didn't even bother to read all of that. Some people tell me I write too much, but that was long, even for me to sift through. Few things.

1, if you have legal ground to stand on, contact a lawyer, file suit, get him to subpoena the records, you should have nothing to lose if you are in the right. 2, pastebin, pastie, etc, are excellent places to archive information you want made public. 3, get your own website and host the files yourself. They can't make you take them down without legal action, which would accomplish your goal I guess of having your day in court because you could fight it all the way to court. 4, move on. Seriously. Let it go, and move on. If you are smart, you will tell new employers, I've had issue with a previous employer whom you left on bad terms with and ask they not be contacted. Most places will respect that, so long as you can offer several other sources or reference, or even a letter of recommendation to add to your resume with contact info for references. Not mentioning it and they then do background checks and talk to these people, makes it look like you are hiding something, so if you are in the right, be up front with them and honest about what happened. Don't rag on the old employer or try to bad mouth, just state facts and why you left.

[skraps]

I didn't even bother to read all of that. Some people tell me I write too much, but that was long, even for me to sift through. Few things.

1, if you have legal ground to stand on, contact a lawyer, file suit, get him to subpoena the records, you should have nothing to lose if you are in the right. 2, pastebin, pastie, etc, are excellent places to archive information you want made public. 3, get your own website and host the files yourself. They can't make you take them down without legal action, which would accomplish your goal I guess of having your day in court because you could fight it all the way to court. 4, move on. Seriously. Let it go, and move on. If you are smart, you will tell new employers, I've had issue with a previous employer whom you left on bad terms with and ask they not be contacted. Most places will respect that, so long as you can offer several other sources or reference, or even a letter of recommendation to add to your resume with contact info for references. Not mentioning it and they then do background checks and talk to these people, makes it look like you are hiding something, so if you are in the right, be up front with them and honest about what happened. Don't rag on the old employer or try to bad mouth, just state facts and why you left.

Dude, I'm homeless and have nothing but some clothes and tools at my fathers house. I only have 2 computers and a bag that I carry around. I had to leave from TX due to harassment. I want them to take me to court. I have to get a lawyer and goto Houston to take them to court. They have Houston bought. I need them to come here to NC and take me to court. Then I get a lawyer on the states dime. Then it's on fair ground not a justice system biases to one of the larger corps in the Texas area. I wish I could take them to court.

[digip]

Dude, I'm homeless and have nothing but some clothes and tools at my fathers house. I only have 2 computers and a bag that I carry around. I had to leave from TX due to harassment. I want them to take me to court. I have to get a lawyer and goto Houston to take them to court. They have Houston bought. I need them to come here to NC and take me to court. Then I get a lawyer on the states dime. Then it's on fair ground not a justice system biases to one of the larger corps in the Texas area. I wish I could take them to court.

It doesn't cost money to file a police report for harassment. It will however cost you money for an attorney to go after them unless you represent yourself, something I wouldn't advise unless you have concrete evidence for everything in your claim. If you think you would win, you can also sue for damages to have them pay your court costs. If you are truly in the right though, why not file harassment charges? The longer you wait, the harder it will be to make your claim. Get some press, community behind you, and then go after them. Go to the news, local papers, etc.

Edited October 14, 2011 by digip

[skraps]

It doesn't cost money to file a police report for harassment. It will however cost you money for an attorney to go after them unless you represent yourself, something I wouldn't advise unless you have concrete evidence for everything in your claim. If you think you would win, you can also sue for damages to have them pay your court costs. If you are truly in the right though, why not file harassment charges? The longer you wait, the harder it will be to make your claim. Get some press, community behind you, and then go after them. Go to the news, local papers, etc.

I'v tried the police. The can't legally help. I've already tried that route multiple times.