niels Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Hey everybody, for a couple of months I've been keeping an eye out to buy me a rackserver. Finally I found some interesting bargains, but I'm seeking some advise from you guys. I found some used, refurbished servers and some interesting new servers. This is what I come up with : ################################################### ##############USED refurbished Servers ############### ################################################## ########### IBM ############### IBM X-series 3850m2 2 x Intel Xeon E7330 Quad-Core 2,4Ghz 8 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2 2 x 72 GB 2,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SAS 3G 10K IBM dual nic integrated 2x 10/100/1000 Mb/sec IBM integrated RAID controller IBM Powersupply X-series 3850 1300 Watt IBM Xseries 3850 6 vents Internal DVD-Rom IDE low-profile = >1485 € ########### DELL ############### Dell Power-Edge 2950 2 x Intel Xeon E5130 Dual-core 2,00 Ghz 4 MB cache 1333 Mhz FSB 4 x 2 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2 4 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2 2 x 500 GB 3,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SATA 7200rpm Dell embedded Remote Access Controller Dell dual embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit ethernet NIC Dell NC7170 2x gigabit PCI-X nic Dell PERC 5/i controller met 256 MB + battery Dell Poweredge 2950 hot-pluggable 750W powersupply Dell Poweredge 2950 4 vents Internal DVD-Rom IDE low-profile => €1.529,15 ########### HP ############### HP Proliant ML350G5 2 x Intel Xeon X5355, 4 cores 2.66Ghz 2x4 MB cache 1333 Mhz FSB 2 x 2 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2 4 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2 2 x 72 GB 2,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SAS 3G 10K aanbieding HP Integrated Light Out 2 (iLo2) managemen HP two embedded NC373i Multifunction Gigabit Net work adaptor HP Smart-Array E200i SAS RAID controller HP Proliant ML350G5 Powersupply 800Watt Powerkabel standaard 220v - C19 female 2 x HP Proliant ML350G5 vents Internal DVD-Rom IDE black => €1.449,42 HP Proliant ML350G5 2 x Intel Xeon E5335, 4cores, 2,0 Ghz, 8 MB L3 cache, 80 Watt 2 x 2 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2 4 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2 2 x 72 GB 2,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SAS 3G 10K HP Integrated Light Out 2 (iLo2) management HP two embedded NC373i Multifunction Gigabit Net work adaptor HP Smart-Array E200i SAS RAID controller HP Proliant ML350G5 Powersupply 800Watt Powerkabel standaard 220v - C19 female€15,00 2 x HP Proliant ML350G5 vents Internal DVD-Rom IDE black => €1.354,22 ################################################### ##############BRAND NEW Servers ################### ################################################## These are the new servers I found, these are supermicro servers, but they only have 1 processor. ########### SuperMicro ############### 2U Superserver Xeon 5000 8bay Intel Xeon E5506 Quad Core 2.13GHZ 4.8GT 80W 3 x Kingston 1GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC Integrated IPMI2.0 with Dedicated LAN Rackmount rails Onboard LSI 1068e 8-Port SAS Controller 2 x seagate 2tb 5900rpm sata II AS low power 3 x kingston 2gb DDR3 1333mhz Ecc =>1070€ Supermicro 1U 5016T-MTF Xeon 5000 4bay Intel Xeon E5506 Quad Core 2.13GHZ 4.8GT 80W intel xeon e5620 2.4g 5.86T 80w 3 x Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC Integrated IPMI2.0 with Dedicated LAN Rackmount rails / Without DVD-Rom (x16) PCI-Express 2.0 slot 2 x seagate 1TB 7200rpm SATA II AS 6 x 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz Ecc => 1314€ Supermicro 1U 5017C-MTF Xeon E3 4bay Intel Xeon E3-1230 4core 3.20ghz 8mb 80W 2 x Kingston 1GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC Onboard IPMI/KVM with Dedicated LAN 350W Gold Level Power Supply 2 x Seagate 500GB 7200rpm sata II ns 4 x kingston 4gb DDR3 1333 mhz ECC slimline dvd-rom player sata => 1220€ I want to install VMWare ESXi on the server I would like to buy. Could anybody give his/here opinion on these servers? Thanks very much, looking forward to hear some comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegin Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Not sure what you need them for but I always go with what will fit the purpose and parts I can replace when they go bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianzimm Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) New servers look good. The old ones are old. Not sure I would take an old cpu right now. Here is what I purchased a few months ago. Server Intel SR1600URHSRNA 1U Dual Intel Xeon 5600 Series Intel 5520 3 Hot-Swap Bays Server Barebone Intel ASR1500PASBP Passive Hot-Swap Backplane RAM 24GB total 2 X KVR1333D3E9SK3/12G CPU 2 X Intel Xeon E5620 Westmere 2.4GHz LGA 1366 80W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80614E5620 Remote KVM RMM3 900961 CD ROM AXXSATADVDROM Other INTEL basic rails INTEL 1U Bezel HD Any SATA II HD Total $2140 Edited July 5, 2011 by brianzimm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Based on my research I did on the old and the new servers, the old servers have more physical cores because of the additional CPU than the new servers. From a virtualization point of view, this will allow you to expand the number of your virtual machines without affecting performance. However, another thing to consider as well as when increasing your virtual machines numbers, is "Physical RAM". I know some of your old and new server have decent amount of ram but, but that's something to keep in mind when planning on increasing your virtualization infrastructure. Ideally I would recommend around 6 to 10 gigs of ram, not only to allow room for future expansion but not degrade your server performance too much. I usually allocate at least 2GB of ram per virtual machine, but that could change depending on the type of services or software running on those virtual machines. Moreover, the new servers specs look good but they have no support for hyperthreading just like the old servers. Now in terms of which server to buy, I am leaning towards more of these two than the others. New Server Supermicro 1U 5016T-MTF Xeon 5000 4bay Intel Xeon E5506 Quad Core 2.13GHZ 4.8GT 80W intel xeon e5620 2.4g 5.86T 80w 3 x Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC Integrated IPMI2.0 with Dedicated LAN Rackmount rails / Without DVD-Rom (x16) PCI-Express 2.0 slot 2 x seagate 1TB 7200rpm SATA II AS 6 x 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz Ecc Old Server IBM X-series 3850m2 2 x Intel Xeon E7330 Quad-Core 2,4Ghz 8 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2 2 x 72 GB 2,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SAS 3G 10K IBM dual nic integrated 2x 10/100/1000 Mb/sec IBM integrated RAID controller IBM Powersupply X-series 3850 1300 Watt IBM Xseries 3850 6 vents Internal DVD-Rom IDE low-profile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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