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Hey everybody,

for a couple of months I've been keeping an eye out to buy me a rackserver.

Finally I found some interesting bargains, but I'm seeking some advise from you guys.

I found some used, refurbished servers and some interesting new servers. This is what I come up with :

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##############USED refurbished Servers ###############

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########### IBM ###############

IBM X-series 3850m2

2 x Intel Xeon E7330 Quad-Core 2,4Ghz

8 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2

2 x 72 GB 2,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SAS 3G 10K

IBM dual nic integrated 2x 10/100/1000 Mb/sec

IBM integrated RAID controller

IBM Powersupply X-series 3850 1300 Watt

IBM Xseries 3850 6 vents

Internal DVD-Rom IDE low-profile

= >1485 €

########### DELL ###############

Dell Power-Edge 2950

2 x Intel Xeon E5130 Dual-core 2,00 Ghz 4 MB cache 1333 Mhz FSB

4 x 2 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2

4 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2

2 x 500 GB 3,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SATA 7200rpm

Dell embedded Remote Access Controller

Dell dual embedded Broadcom NetXtreme II 5708 Gigabit ethernet NIC

Dell NC7170 2x gigabit PCI-X nic

Dell PERC 5/i controller met 256 MB + battery

Dell Poweredge 2950 hot-pluggable 750W powersupply

Dell Poweredge 2950 4 vents

Internal DVD-Rom IDE low-profile

=> €1.529,15

########### HP ###############

HP Proliant ML350G5

2 x Intel Xeon X5355, 4 cores 2.66Ghz 2x4 MB cache 1333 Mhz FSB

2 x 2 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2

4 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2

2 x 72 GB 2,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SAS 3G 10K aanbieding

HP Integrated Light Out 2 (iLo2) managemen

HP two embedded NC373i Multifunction Gigabit Net work adaptor

HP Smart-Array E200i SAS RAID controller

HP Proliant ML350G5 Powersupply 800Watt

Powerkabel standaard 220v - C19 female

2 x HP Proliant ML350G5 vents

Internal DVD-Rom IDE black

=> €1.449,42

HP Proliant ML350G5

2 x Intel Xeon E5335, 4cores, 2,0 Ghz, 8 MB L3 cache, 80 Watt

2 x 2 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2

4 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2

2 x 72 GB 2,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SAS 3G 10K

HP Integrated Light Out 2 (iLo2) management

HP two embedded NC373i Multifunction Gigabit Net work adaptor

HP Smart-Array E200i SAS RAID controller

HP Proliant ML350G5 Powersupply 800Watt

Powerkabel standaard 220v - C19 female€15,00

2 x HP Proliant ML350G5 vents

Internal DVD-Rom IDE black

=> €1.354,22

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##############BRAND NEW Servers ###################

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These are the new servers I found, these are supermicro servers, but they only have 1 processor.

########### SuperMicro ###############

2U Superserver Xeon 5000 8bay

Intel Xeon E5506 Quad Core 2.13GHZ 4.8GT 80W

3 x Kingston 1GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC

Integrated IPMI2.0 with Dedicated LAN

Rackmount rails

Onboard LSI 1068e 8-Port SAS Controller

2 x seagate 2tb 5900rpm sata II AS low power

3 x kingston 2gb DDR3 1333mhz Ecc

=>1070€

Supermicro 1U 5016T-MTF Xeon 5000 4bay

Intel Xeon E5506 Quad Core 2.13GHZ 4.8GT 80W

intel xeon e5620 2.4g 5.86T 80w

3 x Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC

Integrated IPMI2.0 with Dedicated LAN

Rackmount rails / Without DVD-Rom

(x16) PCI-Express 2.0 slot

2 x seagate 1TB 7200rpm SATA II AS

6 x 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz Ecc

=> 1314€

Supermicro 1U 5017C-MTF Xeon E3 4bay

Intel Xeon E3-1230 4core 3.20ghz 8mb 80W

2 x Kingston 1GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC

Onboard IPMI/KVM with Dedicated LAN

350W Gold Level Power Supply

2 x Seagate 500GB 7200rpm sata II ns

4 x kingston 4gb DDR3 1333 mhz ECC

slimline dvd-rom player sata

=> 1220€

I want to install VMWare ESXi on the server I would like to buy. Could anybody give his/here opinion on these servers?

Thanks very much, looking forward to hear some comment.

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New servers look good.

The old ones are old. Not sure I would take an old cpu right now.

Here is what I purchased a few months ago.

Server

Intel SR1600URHSRNA 1U Dual Intel Xeon 5600 Series Intel 5520 3 Hot-Swap Bays Server Barebone

Intel ASR1500PASBP Passive Hot-Swap Backplane

RAM 24GB total

2 X KVR1333D3E9SK3/12G

CPU

2 X Intel Xeon E5620 Westmere 2.4GHz LGA 1366 80W Quad-Core Server Processor BX80614E5620

Remote KVM

RMM3 900961

CD ROM

AXXSATADVDROM

Other

INTEL basic rails

INTEL 1U Bezel

HD

Any SATA II HD

Total $2140

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Based on my research I did on the old and the new servers, the old servers have more physical cores because of the additional CPU than the new servers. From a virtualization point of view, this will allow you to expand the number of your virtual machines without affecting performance. However, another thing to consider as well as when increasing your virtual machines numbers, is "Physical RAM".

I know some of your old and new server have decent amount of ram but, but that's something to keep in mind when planning on increasing your virtualization infrastructure. Ideally I would recommend around 6 to 10 gigs of ram, not only to allow room for future expansion but not degrade your server performance too much.

I usually allocate at least 2GB of ram per virtual machine, but that could change depending on the type of services or software running on those virtual machines. Moreover, the new servers specs look good but they have no support for hyperthreading just like the old servers.

Now in terms of which server to buy, I am leaning towards more of these two than the others.

New Server

Supermicro 1U 5016T-MTF Xeon 5000 4bay

Intel Xeon E5506 Quad Core 2.13GHZ 4.8GT 80W

intel xeon e5620 2.4g 5.86T 80w

3 x Kingston 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz ECC

Integrated IPMI2.0 with Dedicated LAN

Rackmount rails / Without DVD-Rom

(x16) PCI-Express 2.0 slot

2 x seagate 1TB 7200rpm SATA II AS

6 x 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz Ecc

Old Server

IBM X-series 3850m2

2 x Intel Xeon E7330 Quad-Core 2,4Ghz

8 x 1 GB PC2-5300 ECC DDR-2

2 x 72 GB 2,5" hot-pluggable harddisk SAS 3G 10K

IBM dual nic integrated 2x 10/100/1000 Mb/sec

IBM integrated RAID controller

IBM Powersupply X-series 3850 1300 Watt

IBM Xseries 3850 6 vents

Internal DVD-Rom IDE low-profile

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