faivdolla Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 Hi First up, i have no idea where to put this threat, so I’ll start it here, if It’s in a wrong place, please admins, move it. If this threat is not acceptable or bad in any other way, please, let me know and delete it, no hard feelings. :) I would like to point out, that English is not my native language, so please be kind :P I thought long and hard, how to present this case to u all and I think honesty should be my best bet. OK, here we go. A ~2 years ago my friend was asked to make an accounting program (web app), it was a huge project and money was good. He was the team leader and there were few other coders. Everything was ok, had all the contracts and other paper works as it should..(he has his own firm, from under he made that project) Then the company (ordering side), changed- new name, same people- telling us, that everything is ok, and let’s keep on working. So we did. Contracts remain with old names. We knew that this isn’t right, but they were paying and everything else didn’t matter. (I know, stupid) At some point, they started to delay with payments, and so on, until they stop paying at all, but here’s the kicker- they said “ that doesn’t mean that u should stop making it, everything is fine “ :D Of course my friend, good heart as he have, continued his work, for .. I honestly don’t know for how long, four months or maybe more. Our accountant sent all the bills with interest, and all the replay we had was “why have u stopt making it”. As he made this program, he had a remote access to the server, where the web app and databases were and using that access he closed the program down, but left it in there. Now, them fellows paid (as far as I know) pretty good amount to another programmer there (who were “let go” few months earlier.. or something) to reopen that program and to block/delete my friends access and change passwords) ..fun huh? :) And the best part, they are now using it and making money.. app itself is far from finished, but usable – they needed it fast. Now, because he’s just a coder and I’m a good friend :) (somewhat involved in his business), I thought I’ll give it a try. Maybe u guys here, can help. I am 100% certain that they have no intend to pay us, so, my big plan was as follows- IF there is any chance to completely remove it, then, IF they want to keep using it, they pay what they owe and get it back ( so called buy it out, because the app belongs to our company, until its finished, and they have said them selves, that it isn’t finished ) But I would point out, that this is not about money , my friend has completely lost hope, and given up, and he is certain that he won’t see that money (and all this has shaken his confidence). Me, I just want to give those guys what they deserve, IF we get that money, all the better.. :) As I understand it, there is an linux (opensuse) machine where the databases stand on, and on that linux there is a virtual drive with win7 where’s that web/app runs on IIS. In front of all that, there should be some sort of firewall that redirects traffic, because suse and win have the same ip, just different ports. So, if someone could delete that virtual drive, that would be enough.. As far as I know, no one has updated those systems, for a long time.. The good thing about this all, is that all of this is legal, as I discussed it with my friend, because the app still belongs to us and we shall call it a “ security audit” ;) that’s why we don’t want to touch the databases, only the program.. but, if the databases will be lost, that’s not our problem- they knew that it’s not finished and there’s no backup system implemented yet and they choose to use it anyway. Maybe here is someone whos willing to take on that nice little challange.. :) I have that ip, some ports- that were open sometime ago and some user names for opensuse. I would prefer to give them out to people that ask, not to put them out here for public..or should I just put them out here? I know that this probably is a lost cause, but hey, no shame in trying.. I try to answer every question to this subject as good as I can, please, no remarks how he should have handled this, what’s done is done. Tnx in advance and let’s hope for the best (what doesn’t kill, makes u stronger, right) :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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