Mad Pierre Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 Read below. love the owned pic. Car ECU packet sniffing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 A computer is a computer, all run software, all software has bugs/vulnerabilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Pierre Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 LOL well yeah. - Wait's till someone does the speed film for real LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParMan Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 LOL well yeah. - Wait's till someone does the speed film for real LOL thats not really that funny. something this could be used for law enforcement. just think about all the high speed chases that end in crashes or death of innocent people. instead they could just shutdown the persons car when they are getting pulled over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOSys Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 thats not really that funny. something this could be used for law enforcement. just think about all the high speed chases that end in crashes or death of innocent people. instead they could just shutdown the persons car when they are getting pulled over. Or they could just discreetly follow the perps and grab them when they need to fill the tank ... but nooooo, why waste a chance to be a movie-cop and start a high-speed chase in populated areas .. It's a lot sexier than auditing the books of the banksters . But this really isn't surprising, most computer-equipment in commercial applications is built on a trust-model, ie the different pieces of hardware "trust" each other . Well, no "security-expert" likes "trust" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimaj Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 thats not really that funny. something this could be used for law enforcement. just think about all the high speed chases that end in crashes or death of innocent people. instead they could just shutdown the persons car when they are getting pulled over. I saw a video a while back, when one of those car alarm systems (that can track where the car is at) demonstrated the remote shutdown during a police chaise... They basically shut down everything except for breaks and steering wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Pierre Posted May 18, 2010 Author Share Posted May 18, 2010 It was'nt meant to be funny. All car have mechanical way of stopping and steering no matter what happen's to a ECU. Even on Auto's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inked Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 I saw a video a while back, when one of those car alarm systems (that can track where the car is at) demonstrated the remote shutdown during a police chaise... They basically shut down everything except for breaks and steering wheel. OnStar can do that now if it is activated on the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Pierre Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 Won't work of my R5 GTT when I get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deleted_Account Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I saw a video a while back, when one of those car alarm systems (that can track where the car is at) demonstrated the remote shutdown during a police chaise... They basically shut down everything except for breaks and steering wheel. I saw this on the TV show "Jacked" on showcase (in canada at least) The police planted a car with keys in the ignition waiting for someone to take it. When they did the police could not only track it but also stop, slow down, and lock the car! More chases should be done with something like this. Although as soon as it was widely implemented by police people would find a way to negate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry99705 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 (edited) Did any of you read the article? It requires a cable attached to the obdii port. Trust me, you're going to notice the thing that's now sticking out by your knees. I know they make bluetooth models now, but I'm not sure of the range, probably not that far. Won't work of my R5 GTT when I get one. Yes, it will. That car has a obdii port as well. OnStar can do that now if it is activated on the car. I wouldn't be surprised if Onstar worked wether you're paying for it or not. Edited May 20, 2010 by barry99705 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Pierre Posted May 20, 2010 Author Share Posted May 20, 2010 I've never seen a Renault 5 GTT with a ODB port, as there run on carb's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry99705 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 I've never seen a Renault 5 GTT with a ODB port, as there run on carb's. Yea, google failed me, took me to a renault clio page..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 (edited) OnStar can do that now if it is activated on the car. Seems there was a case where the gom't 'backdoored' the onstar to listen in to conversations of the occupants. Problem was, well, aside from possible illegal 'wiretapping' the vehicle safety systems were compromised, airbags or anti-lock brakes were not up snuff when this wiretapping took place. http://news.cnet.com/FBI-taps-cell-phone-m..._3-6140191.html http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=57331 Edited July 3, 2010 by Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkStar851 Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 OnStar can do that now if it is activated on the car. I wouldn't be surprised if Onstar worked wether you're paying for it or not. The OnStar system uses a proprietary protocol that communicates to their satellites from an antenna integrated into the veichel's over-all design. The antennas are typically quite subtle. Anyways, if you had a way to intercept and modify these signals, (possibly with a jammer that also emits whatever signal you desire), you could likely attack ALL cars within a certain radius that use the OnStar protocol. To my knowledge, this data is NOT encrypted, at all, in older models. Could be a massive security flaw that could seriously wreak some havoc! About the active subscription comment; OnStar doesn't accept signals from cars without an active subscription to their service. The packets simply drop, they don't even bother returning a signal to tell the user that the service is not active. You can tap into this through the Comm port as well, getting GPS data, car diagnostic details, and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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