davil Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Hi all, Seems I'm always in here asking questions, but somebody may have tried this already and have an idea which one is fastest. So what I'm asking is this: I don't have a BIOS that supports hardware virtualisation, even though my CPU does support it. So for a while I thought I was SOL with regards XP mode, but then I realised that I could install my old copy of XP in Virtualbox and run it seamlessly, which is great, but it's not as if I can have an "Internet Explorer 6" shortcut that runs just that program, so I'd like to get a proper XP mode going. Then I found out a few weeks ago that you no longer need hardware assisted virtualisation to have XP Mode through Virtual PC, but I also found out today that you can have a kind of XP mode in both Vmware Player and Virtualbox. So does anybody know which is fastest? Virtual PC (official) http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/windows7/...o-more-pcs.aspx Virtualbox + VMlite plugin http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/12309/insta...-vmlite-plugin/ Vmware Player version http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/10911/run-x...virtualization/ Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netshroud Posted April 21, 2010 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Anything > VirtualPC The rest you'll hear arguments on. VMware Player > Virtualbox IMO+IME. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) To be honest, I've been using both VMware and Microsoft Virtual PC for quite sometime. But have to say that VMware is a lot better and faster than Microsoft Virtual PC. The only disadvantage that I can think of, is that VMware is only free for 30 days, whereas Microsoft Virtual PC is free. Edited April 22, 2010 by Infiltrator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netshroud Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 VMware Player is free. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 VMware Player is free. :P Yes the player not the workstation. And thats the one I use most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netshroud Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Player will do the job for almost everything, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 Yes the player not the workstation. And thats the one I use most. There are tricks to turn player into a full VM and get an OS installed through Player, but you have to use thing slike Qemu to create the vmx text files with configuration settings and point to an ISO file to install from. Once installed, you edit the text file to remove the iso and boot into the OS. Used to do it a while back before I bought the latest version of VMware. If you are running the latest VMware, then you can also do GPU acceleration in your VM's, so its plus to buy it vs using player. I have vista running with Aero and full everything on in VMware and no problems on my system. Try getting aero to work smoothly in any other VM software if even at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 There are tricks to turn player into a full VM and get an OS installed through Player, but you have to use thing slike Qemu to create the vmx text files with configuration settings and point to an ISO file to install from. Once installed, you edit the text file to remove the iso and boot into the OS. Used to do it a while back before I bought the latest version of VMware. If you are running the latest VMware, then you can also do GPU acceleration in your VM's, so its plus to buy it vs using player. I have vista running with Aero and full everything on in VMware and no problems on my system. Try getting aero to work smoothly in any other VM software if even at all. Are they using Nvidia Cuda or a different technology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netshroud Posted April 22, 2010 Share Posted April 22, 2010 (edited) There are tricks to turn player into a full VM and get an OS installed through Player, but you have to use thing slike Qemu to create the vmx text files with configuration settings and point to an ISO file to install from. Once installed, you edit the text file to remove the iso and boot into the OS. Used to do it a while back before I bought the latest version of VMware. Player 3 lets you make VMs Edited April 22, 2010 by Psychosis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Are they using Nvidia Cuda or a different technology. No. VMware 7 lets you do GPU acceleration by default. They no longer restrict use of the GPU in ways they used to, now allowing you to share the GPU hardware the same way you would the CPU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 Player 3 lets you make VMs All of them did if you knew what to do. Guess they added it as a default feature now? No sense in getting Workstation then I guess unless you need more managment tools and controls, snapshots, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davil Posted April 23, 2010 Author Share Posted April 23, 2010 Just to go back to an earlier point about using Qemu to create your VMs and then use VMware player, there's also VMX builder ( http://vmxbuilder.com/ ), which is a quick and handy way to create VMs also, And Virtualbox has all the main features of VMware workstation too but I'm not too sure if it's as quick as VMware so that was my main question, I presume that Virtual PC is the slowest of the three anyhow ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infiltrator Posted April 23, 2010 Share Posted April 23, 2010 All of them did if you knew what to do. Guess they added it as a default feature now? No sense in getting Workstation then I guess unless you need more managment tools and controls, snapshots, etc. Thats why I got it Vmware workstation in the first place? For the sake of managment tools and controls, snapshots, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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