jman25 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Hey, I appologize if this question has already been asked, but all I saw were post about which netbook is the "best". I want advice on which way to config my new netbook for hacking... what OS I should run, and which tools i should use for sniffing/arp cache poisoning and rainbow cracks. so like win xp with cain and able vs, ubuntu with ____ vs backtrack... I'd also like to know what Darren exact config is if possible. Thank you, and if this has already been answered plz tell me where. netbook specs... Atheros AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter -- Atheros AR8132 PCI-E Fast Ethernet Controller 150GB, 1GB RAM (prob gonna upgrade to 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiyed14 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 ubuntu is always a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 OK, do you have any suggestions on which Distro I should use, I like Ubuntu. I also want to know which method I should use to install linux... Whole comp. vs partion vs virtbox vs USB bootable because it came with win Xp installed. thanks :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiyed14 Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 get rid of XP. Not because I don't like it, but because it's old and out dated. I would use install Ubuntu on the whole disk unless you plan on keeping windows. the choice is yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted December 30, 2009 Share Posted December 30, 2009 Dual boot with Windows if you like Windows (its always useful to have a copy of windows floating about), otherwise nuke it and replace with Ubuntu/Debian/Fedora/etc, pick a distro you like and can work with, but remember they are all pretty much the same at heart. You can also run backtrack, but tbh its probally better to just install the apps you want to run on the distro of your choice. Main thing to remember here is that there isn't a specific hacker loadout for your netbook, any old linux install will do the trick, and you can still get a fair bit done with Windows. What is more important are the tools you want to run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted December 30, 2009 Author Share Posted December 30, 2009 Ok, thanks for your advice, I will probably dual boot so I can keep winXp, cause unfortunately the truth is that there are things that are easier/only possible in WinXp, but I prefer to work in Linux (esp. Ubuntu). I also was looking for some suggestions on which tools I should use. I know a couple but I was looking to make a list of all of your favorites that you use most regularly and for which purpose specifically you use them (Arp Cache Poisoning, Sniffing, Hash cracks, rainbow tables, etc.) , I will probably throw together a list of all the tools they use on the show. Thanks :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I run a dual boot with windows 7 and ubuntu 9.10. As for applications linux equivalent to cain and able is ettercap which is far more powerful than cain due to its plugin features. http://openmaniak.com/ettercap.php Seeing as you have the atheros chipset you may also wanna grab,kismet, macchanger, airodump, aireplay and aircrack (i think thats most of the apps). I don't have the wifi apps installed on my dell notebook due to an unsupported broadcom chipset. Thats what I have my asus eee701 for. =D It may also pay to have wireshark and if you know how to use it (which I don't) metasploit. Just browse the backtrack cd for apps you are interested in or commonly use. It may also pay to install an apache server if you wanna run dns re directions or phishing. As for hash cracking I have never really had a fiddle with it but I believe rainbowcrack is availble for linux and works a treat. Others may have better suggestions. P.S: Have fun downloading those tables >:P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 Thanks, that is exactly what I was looking for, I will start loading it all up and let you know how it goes. Thanks again to all posters, its a great help, and feel free to suggest or discuss more, I'd love to here it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 Oh shit how could I forget, you will also want to install nmap for TCP/IP and Port scanning and net cat is also usefully for raw connections, banner grabbing, etc.. I believe most of the apps I mentioned can be downloaded and installed using apt-get, not to sure about the wifi, metasploit and raibow table stuff. Also just in case you have not done it before, install windows first and then install ubuntu. I like to set my swap and o.s partitions manually then install the grub and your done. lol I cocked up the dual boot a couple of times until I learned my lesson. XD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 Oh shit how could I forget, you will also want to install nmap for TCP/IP and Port scanning and net cat is also usefully for raw connections, banner grabbing, etc.. I believe most of the apps I mentioned can be downloaded and installed using apt-get, not to sure about the wifi, metasploit and raibow table stuff. Also just in case you have not done it before, install windows first and then install ubuntu. I like to set my swap and o.s partitions manually then install the grub and your done. lol I cocked up the dual boot a couple of times until I learned my lesson. XD Ok, thanks for the advice, its good to know. I will make sure to keep that in mind when I install it. Anyone else feel free to post the spefific methods (apt-get) that you find best for all these installs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaKo Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 I like the ports system in FreeBSD myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted December 31, 2009 Author Share Posted December 31, 2009 I like the ports system in FreeBSD myself. Ok, I'll have to check it out, thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcninja Posted December 31, 2009 Share Posted December 31, 2009 get ubuntu UNR its made for netbooks and its slick, ya some stuffs missing but a quick two minutes adding programs adn your good to go, wifi works outta the box, so do function keys, and (compared to past ubuntu instances) dual bootings easy, no installing home partition and all that, just move the slider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 Hey, I went a head and installed ubuntu on my netbook, and everything seems to be working fine, except for the most important part... The wifi card which sucks cause I can't do any wifi sniffing or injecting. So any advice on drivers to install or how to reconfig the card for my Linux half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcninja Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 ..... have you tried http://tinyurl.com/mzovyr as i said before, it has a smooth look and the feel of ubuntu BECAUSE IT IS for netbooks with working wifi and sound and EVERYTHING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 ..... have you tried http://tinyurl.com/mzovyr as i said before, it has a smooth look and the feel of ubuntu BECAUSE IT IS for netbooks with working wifi and sound and EVERYTHING Wow, I wish I had seen your post before the install, I guess I shouldn't have doubted you. Hahaha I'll give it a try Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gcninja Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 if you dont want to reinstall you can just do it like this http://www.ubuntumini.com/2008/10/installi...book-remix.html if i remember that page correctly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Its always worth having Windows installed as you never know when you might want to intercept radio signals outside of 2.4 and 5GHz (you can get Atheros based cards to go out of band a bit) and don't want to drop over a grand on a USRP (although if you have the money get one, I love mine). Radio software on Linux sucks balls outside anything related to the USRP, the only thing passable is some pager stuff, although I have seen passwords and usernames sent over the pager network which is kind of funny. You also have some okay satellite related tools, which mainly seem to pick up Africans looking at porn on satellite internet connection, if you are doing it from the UK. You also have loads of CAD tools and electronics simulation tools like what National Instruments put out. Hacking is more than running other peoples applications on a wired/wireless 2.4/5GHz network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 hey, I appreciate the feedback, and thats a good point, I hadn't even thought about that. Thats exactly why I posted this here, to cover everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yeah the wifi cards can be a bitch to get working in ubuntu sometimes. Its nice when things work out of the box. BTW I was browsing the net searching for some linux stuff and I stumbled across this. Maybe worth a look Install backtrack tools on ubuntu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted January 1, 2010 Author Share Posted January 1, 2010 Yeah the wifi cards can be a bitch to get working in ubuntu sometimes. Its nice when things work out of the box. BTW I was browsing the net searching for some linux stuff and I stumbled across this. Maybe worth a look Install backtrack tools on ubuntu Yeah, I am switching for UNR like suggested, and it works perfectly. Also, thanks for that link, I will give it a try, cause you can never have to many tools right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFu Posted January 1, 2010 Share Posted January 1, 2010 I personally wouldn't of suggested adding the backtrack repo to Ubuntu, much like opening a can of worms! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 I personally wouldn't of suggested adding the backtrack repo to Ubuntu, much like opening a can of worms! I haven't yet done so, but was planning on it. What don't you like about the idea of Backtrack tools in Ubuntu Oh, and by the way, I went a head and installed the Ubuntu Netbook Remix distro, and it works perfectly. Thanks for the recommendation gcninja. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWFu Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Due to you finding a lot of things that won't work due to be different distros/kernels (although BT4 is based on Ubuntu/Debian), you'll be missing a number of things which shipped with BT4 to get the tools running and won't find much support via either the Backtrack or Ubuntu communities. This is all IMHO anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman25 Posted January 2, 2010 Author Share Posted January 2, 2010 Due to you finding a lot of things that won't work due to be different distros/kernels (although BT4 is based on Ubuntu/Debian), you'll be missing a number of things which shipped with BT4 to get the tools running and won't find much support via either the Backtrack or Ubuntu communities. This is all IMHO anyway. Thats a valid point, and I probably won't end up installing the BT4 tools in ubuntu. I already have pretty much everything I need from Shonen's post and I will probably continue to installs apps as I find necessary. I will probably just re-watch some of Darren's Black-hat segments to make sure that I have all the tools necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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