Masteroc Posted November 26, 2009 Share Posted November 26, 2009 The last episode got me thinking about adding a Handheld pen testing device to my aresenal. I did a lot of research on that Zipit and found that the likelihood of getting injection working on it is pretty slim. So my question is, do any of you know of a good handheld device that can support injection and monitor mode? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkfe4r Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Well I ordered an n810 and it came in yesterday when i left for oklahoma city so i wont be able to do any serious testing on it till Tusday.. but ive read that injecting on it isnt possible.. but ive read it could so idk. There is another topic on this forum talkin about the n810 and i posted on it about a week or so ago but no one responded. If anyone finds a handheld (something like n810.. you know.. not a laptop :P) that can inject PLEASE post on this topic.. i have a 14 day return on my n810 :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRGRIM Posted November 27, 2009 Share Posted November 27, 2009 Would this help? ho-ho ... it's a slow Friday in work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 The last episode got me thinking about adding a Handheld pen testing device to my aresenal. I did a lot of research on that Zipit and found that the likelihood of getting injection working on it is pretty slim. So my question is, do any of you know of a good handheld device that can support injection and monitor mode? Thanks The Zipit is very low powered, not saying you can't use it for some cool things but I've never used one for much more than a serial terminal via minicom and for some IRC stuff. I have and like my n810, but support is something that is fairly shit and hardly anyone puts stuff out for it. You need to learn to cross compile if you want to add a lot of stuff. Photo's exist on the internet of some of the shit on mine but I don't see the point of linking it on here. Anyway Kismet, Spectools, Aircrack/aircrack-ptw, Ettercap, metasploit, dsniff, btscanner, hping, minicom, nmap, p0f and I could go on, all work fine. I've got packet injection working but that involved some work and its not perfect at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkfe4r Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 The Zipit is very low powered, not saying you can't use it for some cool things but I've never used one for much more than a serial terminal via minicom and for some IRC stuff. I have and like my n810, but support is something that is fairly shit and hardly anyone puts stuff out for it. You need to learn to cross compile if you want to add a lot of stuff. Photo's exist on the internet of some of the shit on mine but I don't see the point of linking it on here. Anyway Kismet, Spectools, Aircrack/aircrack-ptw, Ettercap, metasploit, dsniff, btscanner, hping, minicom, nmap, p0f and I could go on, all work fine. I've got packet injection working but that involved some work and its not perfect at the moment. Well i have an ALFA so using the built-in card isnt really gonna matter much anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Well i have an ALFA so using the built-in card isnt really gonna matter much anyways. How are you powering it? The n810 shows the card via lsusb if you enable host USB support but it does not work unless you split the power off from the card and use an extra power source like a USB battery pack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkfe4r Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 How are you powering it? The n810 shows the card via lsusb if you enable host USB support but it does not work unless you split the power off from the card and use an extra power source like a USB battery pack. Well I havent messed around with it but ive read around the net and somepeople use the alfa card so I figured its really easy.. ill let you guys know what I come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EPSILON Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 How are you powering it? The n810 shows the card via lsusb if you enable host USB support but it does not work unless you split the power off from the card and use an extra power source like a USB battery pack. Instructions to build a USB Power Injector for Nokia Internet Tablets. I tested it with N770 and N810 and it worked pretty good :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkfe4r Posted November 28, 2009 Share Posted November 28, 2009 Where did you get the usb connectors.. ive looked all over google but i just dont know what they are called. EDIT: Actually I found it online :D I ordered the rest of the stuff too so we will see :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sud0x3 Posted November 29, 2009 Share Posted November 29, 2009 1. The Nokia N770 http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=maemo/n...ing-pen-testing 2. Pocket Pc ppc (windows mobiles) 3. Android Mobiles (HTC Dream) 4. Iphone 5. Zaurus 6. Nokia N900 (Promising Firmware http://www.neopwn.com/index.php) There are many devices out there with arm processors capiable of running linux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masteroc Posted November 30, 2009 Author Share Posted November 30, 2009 It's not just the capability to run linux, it's the capability to inject packets or even switch to monitor mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr0p Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 The N900 looks very promising, we'll have to see what chipset the wifi is based on though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sud0x3 Posted November 30, 2009 Share Posted November 30, 2009 @masteroc What phones, os, mobiles do you recomend that can run ap pentesting tools without linux. While looking keep in mind that 90% of the tools are built for linux and that only some run on a arm proc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmist! Posted December 18, 2009 Share Posted December 18, 2009 The last episode got me thinking about adding a Handheld pen testing device to my aresenal. I did a lot of research on that Zipit and found that the likelihood of getting injection working on it is pretty slim. So my question is, do any of you know of a good handheld device that can support injection and monitor mode? Thanks take a palm tungsten or the like and put linux on it. install aircrack and other pentesting software and you are good to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry99705 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 take a palm tungsten or the like and put linux on it. install aircrack and other pentesting software and you are good to go Yea, you just pulled that out of your ass right? They just barely support the hardware on the newer palms. Anything more than putting pretty pictures on the screen is a long way away. @OP The best handheld at the moment would be the Zaurus SL-C3200. Used to have a few different Zauri, I know for a fact it will run kismet, and the spectools for the wispy usb spectrum analyzers. There's a port for aircrack for it as well. The only problem with these little guys are the processors are pretty low power, so cracking wep will take many many hours, forget about wpa, there's just not enough room on board for the tables. They make great recon devices though. I used to use mine to hunt down rogue access points for the school district I used to work for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Yea, you just pulled that out of your ass right? They just barely support the hardware on the newer palms. Anything more than putting pretty pictures on the screen is a long way away. @OP The best handheld at the moment would be the Zaurus SL-C3200. Used to have a few different Zauri, I know for a fact it will run kismet, and the spectools for the wispy usb spectrum analyzers. There's a port for aircrack for it as well. The only problem with these little guys are the processors are pretty low power, so cracking wep will take many many hours, forget about wpa, there's just not enough room on board for the tables. They make great recon devices though. I used to use mine to hunt down rogue access points for the school district I used to work for. Why you are wrong http://forums.bsodtv.org/Nokia-N80-t546.html N810 is hands down the best handhald at the moment as I can get everything I run on a normal laptop working. I can even use USB video capture cards as a way of bringing video in from my video scanners, if I want to I could even use a usb to pcmcia adapter if needed. I don't know enough about the n900 to say its going to be better than the n810 in some ways but it looks like it will be worth picking up in a year or twos time when the price drops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emeryth Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 The iPAQ hx4700 is a nice (although ancient) PDA with 100% linux support and wifi injection capability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry99705 Posted December 20, 2009 Share Posted December 20, 2009 Why you are wrong http://forums.bsodtv.org/Nokia-N80-t546.html N810 is hands down the best handhald at the moment as I can get everything I run on a normal laptop working. I can even use USB video capture cards as a way of bringing video in from my video scanners, if I want to I could even use a usb to pcmcia adapter if needed. I don't know enough about the n900 to say its going to be better than the n810 in some ways but it looks like it will be worth picking up in a year or twos time when the price drops. I had an N800. I'll never buy another one of those pieces of shit again. Nokia "support" sucks dead donkey cock. The Zaurus has usb host capability as well. I've used cf to pcmcia adapters on them as well. The Zaurus also has a 6Gb hard drive built in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I had an N800. I'll never buy another one of those pieces of shit again. Nokia "support" sucks dead donkey cock. The Zaurus has usb host capability as well. I've used cf to pcmcia adapters on them as well. The Zaurus also has a 6Gb hard drive built in. I don't see the issue with Nokia support, I've never needed it. The issue with the Zaurus is the only option I've seen getting one is importing it from Japan, which is not a good one. Even the people I know in the US say there hard to find. I can walk into a shop and get a n810 for under £150 now. The ease of access to the n810 means that you have a much larger developer community. With the n900 coming out the dev community is getting bigger and bigger every day, the Zaurus is an oddity at best anywhere besides Japan. I don't see the issue, with the 6GB built in. The n810 has 2GB free and you can just stick an 8GB card in it to make that up to 10 or go with an even bigger card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry99705 Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I don't see the issue with Nokia support, I've never needed it. The issue with the Zaurus is the only option I've seen getting one is importing it from Japan, which is not a good one. Even the people I know in the US say there hard to find. I can walk into a shop and get a n810 for under £150 now. The ease of access to the n810 means that you have a much larger developer community. With the n900 coming out the dev community is getting bigger and bigger every day, the Zaurus is an oddity at best anywhere besides Japan. I don't see the issue, with the 6GB built in. The n810 has 2GB free and you can just stick an 8GB card in it to make that up to 10 or go with an even bigger card. You must have missed out on that craptacular firmware update where everyone at Nokia goes on "holiday" the day after it's released. That was awesome. Took about three weeks to get some of the issues fixed. Yea, you'll have to import a zaurus, or pick one up on ebay, since they don't make them any more. I know a couple guys that have replaced the internal drive with bigger cf cards, the one that's in it is a Toshiba 6Gb microdrive. That's without using the external cf card or the sd card. In theory you could get 96Gb of storage, if you have the cash. Realistically a netbook is probably the better way to go. More power, and better support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dаrren Kitchen Posted December 21, 2009 Share Posted December 21, 2009 I have to say, the n810 is the bomb since you can install any Debian package if you use Easy Debian. Here are a few other ideas: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mobile-device-hacking Still, I'd like to get a Zipit just to use as a drop box on someone else's network. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I have to say, the n810 is the bomb since you can install any Debian package if you use Easy Debian. Here are a few other ideas: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=mobile-device-hacking Still, I'd like to get a Zipit just to use as a drop box on someone else's network. Yeah it seems ideal for that. I've a few ham friends that have used them as serial terminals, the first one they put out you needed shockingly good soldering skills to do a serial mod and add a memory card, the Z2 is nice and easy to work with, plus the color screen was a nice addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BHM Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 The OpenPandora (http://www.open-pandora.org/) handheld looks like it would be a good candidate for this once it comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metatron Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 The OpenPandora (http://www.open-pandora.org/) handheld looks like it would be a good candidate for this once it comes out. Its not so much "once" but if it comes out. I've seen too many things like that that come to nothing or have a batch run of 20 developer units at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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