SlashHeist Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I want to get into Linux and do some of the stuff that is being talked about on the newer episodes of Hak5. I was just wondering if anyone could point me into a good direction of where to start? I dont have any programming training or anything so I am a total noob. =( Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchyanow Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I want to get into Linux and do some of the stuff that is being talked about on the newer episodes of Hak5. I was just wondering if anyone could point me into a good direction of where to start? I dont have any programming training or anything so I am a total noob. =( Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Konboot Ophcrack Thats linux :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netshroud Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I started with Linux for Dummies and Mandrake 7, a couple of Unix Handbooks, and a spare Celeron 600Mhz/256MB RAM system that I got from my uncle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkfe4r Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I started with Slackware 10.2 Those were the good days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digininja Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I find the best way to learn is to throw yourself in and try to swim, install linux on one of your machines and use it instead of windows. It will be hard at first, you'll not be able to do much but then you'll get it. Don't try to do any hacking type stuff to start with, just learn to use the system, how to look at files, how to search for things, how to launch apps and run your package manager, then progress to stuff shown on the show. In terms of which distro, Ubuntu is good for beginners as it does a lot for you but if you want to get really hands on then it also hides a lot or messes up things you are trying to do by hand by opposing your changes with its automated systems. I really like Arch linux as you have to do everything yourself. Gentoo is even more hardcore but an excellent learning environment. If you want to get really down and dirty go for Linux From Scratch, LFS, do a full system build from the ground up. I did this once, learnt loads then took it straight back off again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Konboot Ophcrack Thats linux :D Don't think konboot is Linux, but it is a rootkit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkfe4r Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I believe kon-boot uses a unux kernel.. so its linux-ish.. but its not an OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopez1364 Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Start here: Then download a distro and get to tinkering. The best way to learn is to brake it and then fix it. Have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3%5kr3w Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Just remember, you WILL mess it up! BUT don't worry, just keep on tinkering. And when you mess it up, see if you can fix it. If not, or if it's too deep for you the first go, just reload and try again. Always remember in this endeavor you WILL fail, but in failing you WILL succeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchyanow Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Yeah, Use Ubuntu or Open SUSE or Gentoo or Puppy Linux Remember, as lopez1364 says: Problems In Windows - Reboot Problems In Linux - Be Root Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3w`Sparky Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I started with Slackware 10.2 Those were the good days. o mate i used slackware 5 i think it was , but the lack of package management and compiling everything from source was a nightmare, however it taught me well. as for disto , ubuntu might be your best bet , it has great package management and if your a hak5 watcher then your find the guides much easier to follow as Darren uses ubuntu for the demo's of course this could just be starting disto wars but i think ubuntu is ya best bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 I would like to point out that Backtrack is fantastic... as a live CD, don't be tempted to install it. If you want to tools it has in a permanent fashion, I recommend you install a different distro (say, Ubuntu) then install what ever tools you wish to use in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkfe4r Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 Why wouldnt you install BT? It works great for pentesting! I guess if you want to do more than just pentest with linux then i would have to agree with you but why not install if you are just using linux to pentest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Why wouldnt you install BT? It works great for pentesting! I guess if you want to do more than just pentest with linux then i would have to agree with you but why not install if you are just using linux to pentest? That's the point, it's for penetrating *things* <waves hands>, not using as your desktop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d4rkfe4r Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 I dont think anyone mentioned installing it as your main linux os.. and if anyone did that would be torture for someone new to linux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydT0ne Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 get a second hand/cheap/low spec box and stick ubuntu on it....set a goal for yourself..."i'll only use this box for the entire week" kinda thing... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr0p Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 Install gentoo. You'll learn your way around a linux system real fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3w`Sparky Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (replaced) Never Realised the rules stated that your not allowed humour Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchyanow Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 and the disto wars have begun Remember the readme rules: Don't start pointless flame wars: OS wars, text editor wars, game console wars, we've seen them all before, they're really tedious and no-one ever wins. If you don't like something then that's entirely your choice but don't insult someone because they prefer the competition's product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlashHeist Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 Wow thanks guys! Wasn't expecting so many replies. I got Ubuntu 9.04 installed on my old desktop right now! Its pretty fun. I like it a lot. I like using terminal to do updates and install stuff. thats really cool. still dont know much but its fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3w`Sparky Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 Sorry but i would just like to note "catcyanow" your the one with the banner stating "APPLE HATER" & "VISTA HATER" I was infact creating alittle banter as in a pub . . . . . . Sorry to all i insulted in other news welldone on getting ubuntu installed, the best thing i find with ubuntu is the package management apt-get install "here put the application" and it will grab everything needed and install it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psydT0ne Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 no one really gives a fat rats ass what distro anyone uses...as long as your learning and making an effort...you're fine by me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcas Posted November 22, 2009 Share Posted November 22, 2009 I started with backtrack m8. I had no problems, I have ubuntu installed on a partitionin but do not use. I use vista for cracking ms warez(proof of concept only) and backtrack 4 pre final for all network hacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wh1t3 and n3rdy Posted November 24, 2009 Share Posted November 24, 2009 As mentioned elsewhere on this forum, set a root password and then use su Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r4v37t Posted November 25, 2009 Share Posted November 25, 2009 I started with Mandrake 7, then I try SuSe 6, then try RedHat, then try Fedora, then try Ubuntu, then try backtrack (it's a lot of fun), but my choice is Ubuntu and backtrack. Just try more than 2 Linux Distro (because now Linux is more easy to use and learn), then you can let your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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