BLACKplaidNOmad Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Anyone have any ideas... Keep in mind i am EXTREMELY new to this and have just started college and am taking my first semester in CIS Thanks Sorry if this has already been asked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKplaidNOmad Posted November 17, 2009 Author Share Posted November 17, 2009 My brother told me to go sit at mcdonalds and run linux live cd on virtual pc, any other ways where i wont be tempted to get fatter lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Few things. 1, you can't truly hide your mac address, but you can mask/change the hex values of it it before connecting to a network. In order for packets/frames to reach your computer, the network must be able to see your mac/faked mac address, otherwise, you would not be able to communicate on the network. As for hiding your IP address, using a proxy could do the trick, but you then have to rely on how trustworthy the proxy is, as they could be sniffing and filtering everything you do,redirecting you to sites, etc. You could also set up your own proxy or ssh tunnel if you have a website with ssh shell access, but if you were trying to hide from doing something illegal, it would still be traced back to the server you tunnel through, which would most likely have an access log containing your real IP address. There is also TOR, but again, only as secure as the nodes you pass through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 There is also TOR, but again, only as secure as the nodes you pass through. Only as secure as the exit node and entry node. The entry node knows your internet IP address, the exit node sees all your traffic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopez1364 Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 Just spoof your MAC address using a tool called MACaddresschanger for windows. As for tunneling, this would a good project for you to get set up if you are new to this kind of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3w`Sparky Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 mac and ip are very different items to hide, ie if your attacking a website via a proxy or alike then you need not worry about your mac, if your attacking a lan then you have to use an ip for that segment unless you broadcast everything and its the lan attack that its important to spoof your mac internet = ip lan = mac your ip address will remain the same from end to end once it hits an ipv4 public address that is (not a private class) your mac address will only be used on the local segment once its routed then your mac address is replaced with that of the next hop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparda Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 internet = ip lan = mac Your ISP will know your internet facing mac address (probably). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3w`Sparky Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 indeed but from that hop forward it's gone, each time your data is routed onto another network the mac address changes , so if you were to attack a webserver that isnt on your directly connected network then the mac it see's is that of its returning route, of course your IP will be there for them to see and this is why you should proxy in this case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digip Posted November 17, 2009 Share Posted November 17, 2009 There are also other factors to remember to turn off and block when hacking on a local network if using a windows machine. These can be just as good at identifying you as the IP and MAC, such as SMB, your machine name and file shares. If you are using windows, by default installs your machine is going to broadcast its netbios name on the network repeatedly, so turn off Netbios over TCP/IP, and services for ICS, Server, Computer Browser, and Workstation, as well as block ports 135-139 and 445 in and outbound. Its not an issue over the internet, but on the local intranet, its easy to identify a windows machine by its name, so if you happen to use anything at all identifying, like your real name or something personal you are known by, change it. Vista and 7 are a bity funky in that they do multicast IGMP group advertising, which is also very noisy on the network and a key indicator there is an intruder or new machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmist! Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 all you have to do is get a notebook that has a PCMCIA slot and a NIC or WLAN that fits. its individual mac address is attached to the card. you then go to a cofee shop or open wireless network and go to town. if the heat comes up just throw away the card. remember to pay with cash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 use backtrack 4 ifconfig -a find your interface you want to change, eth0 eth1 wlan etc etc ifconfig eth0 down macchanger --mac 00:11:22:33:44:55 eth0 ifconfig eth0 up check your changed mac ifconfig eth0 BT4 disables networking on boot so you may not have to enable your interface if you know what the names are. to get IP address from dhcp. dhclient eth0 Then startx to enter gui for super happy fun ^_^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alok Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 You can even Spoof your MAC in windows without using third party tools. however if tools is concerned then I would advice to use macshift 1) Open your Local Area Connection Status window and click on Properties. 2) In General tab of Local Area Connection Properties, click on Configure. 3) Then go to Advanced tab and click on NetworkAddress and check on the value option and give your fake mac address and click OK. Now open your command prompt and type ipconfig /all to check-out your new mac address. Note:To reset your MAC to original just Select the Radio button "Not Present" for Network Address Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shonen Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 Yeap you can do it inside windows without third part aps but as some of the higher ups in here mentioned Windows gives out a lot more information than just your mac address. + 1 for the background concepts digip, vako and sparky so generously mentioned. In any case who want's to spoof a mac and hack with windows? 0_o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PC646 Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 I prefer Mac MakeUp 1.95d at http://www.gorlani.com/publicprj/macmakeup/macmakeup.asp Not only can you randomly change your mac address but if you do a sniff with cain on a network you need to pay for, you can clone a mac address and log onto the network for free ;) Or so I hear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACKplaidNOmad Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 wow lots of good ideas thanks for all of the help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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